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Re: 5G roadblock: labor
From: Ca By <cb.list6 () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 06:25:11 -0800
On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 12:56 AM Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom mu> wrote:
On 1/Jan/20 17:35, Brandon Butterworth wrote:If the mobile companies are providing the WiFi routers they can control it (see LTE WiFi attempt) and one day replace it with 5G or 6G in all the things. If they make a better job of it than everyones devices fighting for 5GHz then they may succeed.The main issue is the artificial concept of "buying data" so you can get online. I don't see any legacy MNO's selling you unlimited access to their radio network. So wi-fi hooked up to some kind of unlimited terrestrial wire (fibre, copper, wireless, e.t.c.) is what will discourage the kids from relying on MNO's to provide all of their connectivity needs, especially in fixed settings such as homes and such.
Mark, you are oversimplifying the market 1. All wireless networks are capped by spectrum capacity / physica. As a user, you have been on a congested cell site and a congested 802.11 AP. So, as an operator, you have to ration service. That means cap / qos / $ 2. In the USA, Cable / fiber / copper ISPs sometimes do not sell unlimited either https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.howtogeek.com/424037/googles-stadia-is-about-to-crash-against-isp-data-caps/amp/ Network operators like to set their rates based on some median user profile. They are not being exploitive. Some users tax the network more and drive the upgrade cycle more than others. 3. There are wifi providers, wisps, cable, mno ... they all compete and blur the lines. I think wifi has provided limited benefit to cable operators that have deployed it, but hope for using free spectrum springs enternal https://www.fiercewireless.com/operators/altice-mobile-garners-its-first-15-000-subs-and-3m-revenue
Mark.
Current thread:
- RE: 5G roadblock: labor, (continued)
- RE: 5G roadblock: labor jdambrosia (Jan 01)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Brandon Butterworth (Jan 01)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor William Allen Simpson (Jan 02)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Ben Cannon (Jan 02)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Mike Hammett (Jan 02)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor joel jaeggli (Jan 02)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Mark Tinka (Jan 03)
- RE: 5G roadblock: labor jdambrosia (Jan 01)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Ben Cannon (Jan 02)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Justin Oeder (Jan 06)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Mark Tinka (Jan 03)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Ca By (Jan 03)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Mark Tinka (Jan 03)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Shane Ronan (Jan 06)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Mark Tinka (Jan 03)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Mark Tinka (Jan 03)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Mike Hammett (Jan 03)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Mark Tinka (Jan 03)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Saku Ytti (Jan 03)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Mark Tinka (Jan 03)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Saku Ytti (Jan 03)