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Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?
From: Etienne-Victor Depasquale <edepa () ieee org>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 09:49:08 +0200
Two more bits' worth ... About a year ago, during a discussion with a local network operator's CTO, I was told that dependency on the operator's employees for production of software gave the employees too much leverage over their employer (the operator, here). Perhaps industrial standardization of internal processes (including orchestration APIs) weakens this leverage. Cheers, Etienne On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 8:48 PM Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom com> wrote:
On 11/Aug/20 17:55, adamv0025 () netconsultings com wrote:Can you elaborate? Apart from licensing scheme what stops one from redirecting traffic toone vTMS instance per say each transit link or per destination /24 (i.e. horizontal scaling)? (vTMS is not stateful or is it?) In an effort to control costs, we considered a vTMS from Arbor. Even Arbor didn't recommend it, which was completely unsurprising. Arbor can flog you a TMS that can sweep 10Gbps, 20Gbps, 40Gbps or 100Gbps worth of traffic. I don't see how you can run that kind of traffic in a VM.Can you please point out any efforts where operators are trying tostandardize the orchestration piece? NETCONF, YANG, LSO.I think industry is not falling over on this just progressing at steadyrate while producing artefacts in the process that you may or may not want to use (I actually find them very useful and not impeding). What's 10 years between friends :-)...Personally, I don't need a standard on how I should orchestrate networkservices. There are very interesting and useful ideas, or better put "frameworks", that anyone can follow (and most are), but standardizing these, ...no point in my opinion. Now that's something we can agree on... and once folk realize that getting your solution going is the end-goal - rather than bickering over whether NETCONF or YANG or SSH or whatever should be the BCOP - is when we shall finally see some real progress. Personally, I don't really care of you choose to keep CLI or employ thousands of software heads to automate said CLI. As long as you are happy and not wasting time taking every meeting from every vendor about "automation". Mark.
-- Ing. Etienne-Victor Depasquale Assistant Lecturer Department of Communications & Computer Engineering Faculty of Information & Communication Technology University of Malta Web. https://www.um.edu.mt/profile/etiennedepasquale
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- Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?, (continued)
- Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? Mark Tinka (Aug 06)
- Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? Mel Beckman (Aug 06)
- Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? Mark Tinka (Aug 06)
- Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? Christopher Morrow (Aug 06)
- Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? Mark Tinka (Aug 06)
- Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? Valdis Klētnieks (Aug 08)
- RE: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? adamv0025 (Aug 10)
- Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? Mark Tinka (Aug 11)
- RE: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? adamv0025 (Aug 11)
- Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? Mark Tinka (Aug 11)
- Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? Etienne-Victor Depasquale (Aug 12)
- Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? Mark Tinka (Aug 12)
- Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? Etienne-Victor Depasquale (Aug 12)
- Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? Mark Tinka (Aug 12)
- RE: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? adamv0025 (Aug 12)
- Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? Mark Tinka (Aug 13)
- RE: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? adamv0025 (Aug 10)
- RE: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? adamv0025 (Aug 04)
- Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? Mark Tinka (Aug 05)
- Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? Etienne-Victor Depasquale (Aug 05)