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Re: Mx204 alternative


From: Łukasz Bromirski <lukasz () bromirski net>
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 09:24:25 +0200

Adam,

On 2 Sep 2019, at 19:42, adamv0025 () netconsultings com wrote:

You nailed it, 
Actually very few line-cards or fabric-less boxes with (run to completion
vendor chips) out there do line-rate at 64B packets nowadays.
-with the advent of 100G the "line-rate at 64B" is pretty much not a thing
anymore...
Something to consider, not because one wants to push 64B packets at
line-rate on all ports but because one needs to push IMIX through QOS or
filters... and the card/box might simply not deliver.

But those are two completely different use cases.

The fact that vendors (full disclosure - I work for Cisco) don’t want to
optimize for 64 bytes forwarding is totally independent on how those
architectures deal/manage to apply policies on the traffic.

64B traffic simply doesn’t happen apart from DDoS scenarios, so
why bother at all? Customers anyway want to use dedicated
anty-DDoS boxes, so apart from synthetic performance testing,
pushing the architecture to be able to forward couple of mpps more
just to cover the “64B” scenario means $ (sometimes $$$) just
to satisfy requirement that’s usually simply not there.

In other words, the fact that given architecture can’t forward "wire-rate"
of 64B traffic doesn’t mean that it can’t apply QoS for IMIX pattern
at wire-speed. Forwarding engine is usually different part of
hardware than services, more often than not decisions are totally
independent to speed up processing.

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Łukasz Bromirski
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