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RE: IPv6 Pain Experiment
From: "Aaron Gould" <aaron1 () gvtc com>
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2019 14:30:47 -0500
Thank God for DNS ;) -aaron -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Alan Buxey Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 2:22 PM To: Naslund, Steve Cc: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: IPv6 Pain Experiment hi,
Go ahead and read your v4 address over the phone and then do the same with your v6 address. Which is easier? I do understand all about these addresses both being binary underneath ( I've been doing this for over 30 years now). However it is much easier to communicate using four decimal octets.
::1 so much quicker than 127.0.0.1 ;-)
People generally do not like change and being forced to learn something new.
some people dont... but its called progress. I'd have to worry about someone whose only experience is of TCP/IP networking (and only IPv4 at that). do they also get wobbly when their data is now on a big broadcast collision domain network after all those years of moving it to a switched system?
That is just human nature. You have to give them a reason to want to do it (more money, better service, less long term cost, etc.).
the ability to communicate to the rest of the growing world where IPv4 addresses just arent there anymore?
It is hard to make the case to eliminate v4 in use cases where it is working perfectly fine (especially RFC1918 inside an enterprise).
2 things on this. just an internal network? yes, you could say 'why bother'? I *could* think about being in that camp....but actually, i'd stick the security hat on and say, just like I did with wireless 'we dont have any wireless' - oh really? without being in the domain and having kit that will detect it/trace its source etc how will you know int he IPv6 world...if you arent the one controlling it on your network (and reporting on it) then you will have clients happily talking to each other on it, tunnelling it around the place (hello all those TEREDO tunnels) and being the router for traffic. all the fun with ff02::1 on your local segment ;-) alan
Current thread:
- Re: IPv6 Pain Experiment, (continued)
- Re: IPv6 Pain Experiment Alan Buxey (Oct 03)
- Re: IPv6 Pain Experiment Valdis Klētnieks (Oct 03)
- Re: IPv6 Pain Experiment John Levine (Oct 03)
- Re: IPv6 Pain Experiment Seth Mattinen (Oct 03)
- Re: IPv6 Pain Experiment Doug Barton (Oct 02)
- RE: IPv6 Pain Experiment Naslund, Steve (Oct 03)
- Re: IPv6 Pain Experiment Matt Palmer (Oct 03)
- Re: IPv6 Pain Experiment Doug Barton (Oct 03)
- RE: IPv6 Pain Experiment Naslund, Steve (Oct 03)
- Re: IPv6 Pain Experiment Alan Buxey (Oct 03)
- RE: IPv6 Pain Experiment Aaron Gould (Oct 03)
- Re: IPv6 Pain Experiment James R Cutler (Oct 03)
- Re: IPv6 Pain Experiment Owen DeLong (Oct 04)
- RE: IPv6 Pain Experiment Michel Py (Oct 04)
- Re: IPv6 Pain Experiment Matt Palmer (Oct 04)
- Re: IPv6 Pain Experiment Owen DeLong (Oct 04)
- Re: IPv6 Pain Experiment Owen DeLong (Oct 04)
- RE: IPv6 Pain Experiment Michel Py (Oct 05)
- Re: IPv6 Pain Experiment William Herrin (Oct 07)
- RE: IPv6 Pain Experiment Michel Py (Oct 07)
- Re: IPv6 Pain Experiment William Herrin (Oct 07)