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Re: Last Mile Design


From: Ben Cannon <ben () 6by7 net>
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 02:59:12 -0800

I should probably have mentioned that in this sense I view “urban” as exclusive to “single family homes” - meaning I’m 
talking about high density modern urban with under grounding requirements - and high rise residential towers.

We are the opposite, we are presently enterprise, midsize, and exotic-small business only, and have no residential arm 
or support structure (or SLA expectations, or standards or lack thereof) of a residential connection.

-Ben.

-Ben Cannon
CEO 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC 
ben () 6by7 net <mailto:ben () 6by7 net>




On Feb 9, 2019, at 2:54 AM, Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl () gmail com> wrote:

PON in urban areas absolutely makes sense. Maybe less in a high rise area, where each building can have a small 
building wide network of its own. But it in areas with single family homes PON is king.

Our POPs can have up to 10 000 customers each. All on a single 96 fiber strand cable leading into the POP building. 
We have extra ducts, but nothing that would allow us to change that to a point to point network. That would require 
100x that 96 fiber cable.

With extra ducts it would be possible to rebuild from PON to point to point. But it would require massive 
investments. Basically you would have to invest all that we saved by building PON. For starters, you would have to 
have many more POPs.

And yes, there are splitters in the hand holes. This is not what stops you from rebuilding from PON. It is the fact 
that we never paid for extra fiber. The backbone in a sub area is typically build with a 24 fiber strand cable. 
Because fibers are not free and are actually quite expensive as the number of fibers grow and the distances get 
longer. We can do a few point to point connections, for example if we need to deliver a commercial service or for our 
own needs (to connect POPs etc).

We are not big on commercial services. But if we were, I would use WDM splitters for that. Or the long awaited 10G 
PON if that ever arrives and turns out at a price point that works.

Regards,

Baldur
 


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