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Re: 5G roadblock: labor
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 18:34:42 -0500
On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 6:09 PM Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:
On 12/30/19 2:46 PM, Brandon Martin wrote:On 12/30/19 5:42 PM, Michael Thomas wrote:Oh, I didn't know that. Seems like it's a relatively new thing. Seems like they went to a lot of trouble to essentially do what voip does. Or maybe not? I've been poking around trying figure out what's going on under the hood with wifi calling, and it seems like they're just tunneling PSTN bits over the internet. If true, that's certainly a quick and dirty hack. Maybe they're doing something similar for volte?My understanding is that VoLTE is signaled using SIP. I don't know how the media moves. I think they tried to avoid re-inventing the wheel. Most of the "phone" guys are slinging a lot of inter-network calls via IP these days, anyway.Yeah, maybe it really is RTP because iirc, VoLTE can use different codecs. That would make some sense since a lot of those voice bits are going to end up as RTP at some point. I can understand the wifi hack since they may not have had the ability to directly deal with customer facing RTP from the phones 5 years ago. Maybe my google-foo is really bad, but it's not been easy to get an overview of what's going on under the hood for these. And I'd prefer to avoid the 3GPP tar pit.
I had thought the 'benefit' of LTE (specific to Voice) was a SIP UA was implemented at the handset for all 'voice' over the LTE network. (voice calls through your carrier - VoLTE) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_over_LTE There are, or were when I last got told what's what... some problems at the GRX with VoLTE when roaming... like: "The traffic appears as handset data not handset calls" on the GRX. For a long time in the start of the LTE network deployments handsets just kept on using 3g (or less) for voice, because the radios existed, the cell towers were equiped and 'VoLTE is scary still!"
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- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Brandon Martin (Dec 30)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Shane Ronan (Dec 30)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Matt Hoppes (Dec 30)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Mike Hammett (Dec 30)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Ben Cannon (Dec 30)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Michael Thomas (Dec 30)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Brandon Martin (Dec 30)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Michael Thomas (Dec 30)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Brandon Martin (Dec 30)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Michael Thomas (Dec 30)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Christopher Morrow (Dec 30)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Michael Thomas (Dec 30)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Shane Ronan (Dec 30)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Mark Tinka (Dec 30)
- RE: 5G roadblock: labor Marshall, Quincy (Dec 30)
- [OFF-TOPIC detour] Re: 5G roadblock: labor Karl Auer (Dec 30)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Mark Tinka (Dec 30)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Mike Hammett (Dec 30)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Brian J. Murrell (Dec 30)
- RE: 5G roadblock: labor Keith Medcalf (Dec 30)
- Re: 5G roadblock: labor Christopher Morrow (Dec 30)