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Re: Corporate Identity Theft: Azuki, LLC -- AS13389, 216.179.128.0/17


From: Hank Nussbacher <hank () efes iucc ac il>
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 07:33:19 +0300

On 15/08/2019 06:16, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
- If the resource owner is no where to be found, why should we as a
community care?
I'm so glad you asked.


Regardless, in -either- the case where no heir can be found -or- in the
case where the rightful heir is either just too dumb or just too lazy
to take the minimal steps necessary to reclaim the property (and/or before
this has ocurred) the community should care because the kind of people who
either steal or squat on IPv4 blocks are, almost without exception, not the
kind of people who anybody sane wants to be accepting packets from, let
alone peering with.  There is, in my opinion and experience, a high
degree of correlation between skulduggery with respect to -obtaining-
(illicitly) IPv4 address blocks and using those addresses in a manner
which is not at all conducive to the general welfare of the Internet or
its users.

So if the rightful is apathetic, then won't these new "malicious blocks" just end up in numerous blacklists and all the illegal activity being performed from those usurped blocks will just be blocked in the end?  Since the RIRs won't do much(as much as we have tried) why not just leave it be (as much as it may hurt to do that) and let the bad blocks just become part of the blacklist sludgepool?

Report it on some webpage and call it "Internet
Resources stolen", document every incident as you do via email, send a
copy to the appropriate RIR and upstream ISP allowing the hijack in
question to show that you did the appropriate effort and we can then
move on.
I can and will stop posting here, and go off an blog about this stuff
instead, if the consensus is that I'm utterly off-topic or utterly
uninteresting and useless.  But a few folks have told me they find
this stuff interesting, and it has operational significance, I think.
So for now, at least, I'd like to continue to share here.


Suggestion: post here a link to your new blog for every incident you find.  State here something like "/22 stolen from xxxx registered in country aaa by yyy located in country bbb".  Those that are interested will click on the link and I suggest you allow comments on every blog post so that people can respond and comment.

Regards,

Hank


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