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Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet
From: "John Levine" <johnl () iecc com>
Date: 7 Aug 2019 00:40:10 -0400
In article <56CBB25E-9A53-4E5E-B2CB-3E769112F516 () truenet com> you write:
John, Seriously, just quote so people don’t have to look it up. Honestly, though others are probably right in that case law usually will over-ride written law due to our legal structure.
Well, kind of, but in this particular case they're well aligned.
ISPs are probably protected by 47 USC 230(c)(1) but all of the case law I know is related to web sites or hosting providers.[ (1)Treatment of publisher or speaker No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider. ] Sounds great on paper, but sort of caught backpage in a quondam, perhaps because they installed filters to begin with.
Keep reading and look at 47 USC 230(c)(2). No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be held liable on account of— (A) any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected; ... Courts have construed "otherwise objectionable" very broadly. It includes spam filtering. The section Mel has been trying to interpret is different, 17 USC 512(a) which says that if you're carrying traffic in a mechanical way (defined in more detail, see the statute) you're not responsible for copyright violations. This is not even sort of like being a common carrier, of course.
Technically, will anyone else booting customer’s for any offense of TOS be similar is still up for grabs, since it’s basically a political nightmare for lawyers right now.
No, really, it's not. ISPs and CDNs don't have to provide service to anyone. I suppose a lawyer could make a case if a provider refused to provide service to members of a protected class ("we don't serve black people") but the kind of people you find on 8chan aren't a protected class. R's, John
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- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet John Levine (Aug 06)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Mel Beckman (Aug 06)
- RE: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Tony Patti (Aug 07)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Rob McEwen (Aug 07)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet bzs (Aug 07)
- RE: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Keith Medcalf (Aug 07)
- RE: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet bzs (Aug 07)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet John Covici (Aug 08)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet bzs (Aug 07)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Eric Tykwinski (Aug 06)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet John Levine (Aug 06)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Mel Beckman (Aug 06)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Harald Koch (Aug 05)
- RE: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Keith Medcalf (Aug 05)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Mel Beckman (Aug 05)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Patrick W. Gilmore (Aug 05)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet bzs (Aug 05)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Bryan Fields (Aug 05)
- RE: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Keith Medcalf (Aug 05)