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Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet


From: Mike Bolitho <mikebolitho () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 08:22:39 -0700

"I am sure there are many sites like this out there, but could network
operators do anything to make these sites “not so easy” to be found,
reached, and used to end innocent lives?"

As network operators? We shouldn't do anything. The onus falls on the
hosting companies. I do not want to go down the slippery slope of deciding
what traffic should or should not be allowed on the internet. That process
involves traffic sniffing and possibly attempting to break encryption to
see what's flowing through the pipes. I'm adamantly against that.

If I'm building and maintaining highways, I'm not opening up every single
truck to make sure there's nobody being smuggled inside. The trucking
company can police what cargo is in their trailers.

On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 8:42 PM Mehmet Akcin <mehmet () akcin net> wrote:

Ok, two mass shootings, touchy topic, lots of emotions this weekend. Going
straight to the point.

Most of us who operate internet services believe in not being the
moderator of internet. We provide a service and that’s it. Obviously there
are some established laws around protecting copyrights, and other things
which force us to legally take action and turn things down when reported.

What can we do better as network operators about hate sites like 8Chan?

I applaud cloudflare’s (perhaps slightly late) decision on kicking 8chan
off its platform today after El Paso attack.
https://blog.cloudflare.com/terminating-service-for-8chan/

I am sure there are many sites like this out there, but could network
operators do anything to make these sites “not so easy” to be found,
reached, and used to end innocent lives?

Mehmet


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