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Re: Ownership of Routers on Both Ends of Transnational Links


From: Pengxiong Zhu <pzhu011 () ucr edu>
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 14:57:06 -0700


this is totally true :) but... if the next hop after
chinaunicom-ic-341501-sjo-b21.c.telia.net is a CU ip... it's better
than average chance that the
chinaunicom-ic-341501-sjo-b21.c.telia.net
address is a telia /30 (or /31) on the ptp link between CU/Telia. That
Telia owns the ip space and that PROBABLY the customer identification
is correct. (cu)


Yes, in our case, the next hops after all the six routers are some CU IPs.


Best,
Pengxiong Zhu
Department of Computer Science and Engineering
University of California, Riverside


On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 2:34 PM Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
wrote:

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 5:19 PM Nimrod Levy <nimrod () nimrod is-a-geek net>
wrote:



On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 16:52 Ross Tajvar <ross () tajvar io> wrote:

I think it's clear that the IPs belong to Telia, but I understood
James's point to be that the router using the IP in question may belong to
China Unicom. (I agree with that, I was not thinking clearly this morning.)
As this is an interconnect link, one side must belong to Telia and the
other to China Unicom. The question, then, is which side are we looking at?
Well, first I want to know how big the subnet is. I assume either /30 or
/31. So, I do a reverse DNS lookup on all the IPs in the surrounding /30
block:
62.115.170.56 - sjo-b21-link.telia.net
62.115.170.57 - chinaunicom-ic-341501-sjo-b21.c.telia.net
62.115.170.58 - las-b24-link.telia.net
62.115.170.59 - chinaunicom-ic-341499-las-b24.c.telia.net
That looks like two /31s. Only one IP in each has the name of China
Unicom in it, so that one is probably in use by China Unicom, and the other
is probably in use by Telia.


that was my point yes.

I think we're making a lot of assumptions about how well PTR records are
maintained. All of this could be totally accurate. Or...not...

this is totally true :) but... if the next hop after
chinaunicom-ic-341501-sjo-b21.c.telia.net is a CU ip... it's better
than average chance that the
chinaunicom-ic-341501-sjo-b21.c.telia.net

address is a telia /30 (or /31) on the ptp link between CU/Telia. That
Telia owns the ip space and that PROBABLY the customer identification
is correct. (cu)

-chris


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