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Re: Segment Routing


From: steve ulrich <sulrich () botwerks org>
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 09:04:44 -0500

fwiw - there's a potentially significant loss of visibility w/SR from a
traffic management perspective depending on how it's deployed.  though, i
doubt the OP is really driving at this point.

the data plane behavior on LDP is swap oriented, while the data plane on SR
is pop oriented.  depending on the hardware capabilities in use this may
have (subtle) traffic engineering or diagnostic implications at a minimum.
folks will likely have to build tooling to address this.

we're pushing the bubble of complexity around.

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 8:47 AM Saku Ytti <saku () ytti fi> wrote:

On 22 May 2018 at 11:19, Matt Geary <matt.geary () gmail com> wrote:

really seeing the value of SR to replace LDP on my backbone. With some
scripting and lots of software tools I can make it just like LDP, but
why?
So break the ease of LDP just to get label switching on my hub core not
really seeing it, unless someone has done it and they are seeing the
value.

Can you elaborate what scripting and software tools are needed? If you'd
talk
about RSVP particularly AutoBW and SR, then yeah, but SR on itself should
be less of a chore than LDP.

SR is what MPLS was intended to be day1, it just wasn't very marketable
idea
to sell MPLS and sell need for changing all the IGPs as well.
LDP is added state, added signalling, added complexity with reduced
visibility.
SR is like full-mesh LDP (everyone has everyone's label POV), while also
removing one protocol entirely.

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