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Re: Qu??bec Sales tax
From: Ken Chase <math () sizone org>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 17:57:45 -0400
bell canada? /kc On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 05:45:26PM -0400, Alain Hebert said: >?????? Same deal as Paypal and EBay. > >?????? Netflix dropping their services in CDN/QC only serve <Yuo know who> >attempt at making yet another market grab. > > >?????? At the end Netflix may just charge the Tax and funnel it to the >govt.?? They'll still be making a bundle. > >?????? ?????? ( And with all the hardware already deployed locally at the >many exchanges ... ) > > >?????? Now if we can only break that damn 1930's licensing scheme so that >we can gain access to more content...?? Kinda annoyed that <You know who> >is hogging all the content with their vertical licensing agreements. > >----- >Alain Hebert ahebert () pubnix net >PubNIX Inc. >50 boul. St-Charles >P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 >Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443 > >On 03/27/18 18:21, Ken Chase wrote: >>If Netflix has no physical presence in Quebec, what the lever are they going >>to use to force this? A lawsuit in <state of netflix incorporation> in the >>US? What court is going to entertain a foreign jurisdiction's tax claim in >>their court? And how would that be then enforced? >> >>Canada has tried this before: >>
https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/u-s-judge-puts-halt-to-canadian-court-order-for-google-to-delist-search-results-1.3663055
>> >>Court file: https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/16701/index.do >> >>Im a big fan of Canada standing up for its sovereignty (I live here), but nice >>try. >> >>/kc >> >> >>On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 06:10:51PM -0400, Jean-Francois Mezei said: >> >Not quite networking but probably relevant. >> > >> >The Canadian province of Qu??bec just introduced a new budget with >> >basically the intent to force foreign digital companies who sell >> >services to Qu??bekers to collect the local value added sales tax and >> >remit those to the QC government. >> > >> >The goal is to capture tax from Netflix who has so far escaped taxation >> >in Canada by having no legal/physical presence in Canada, no cache >> >servers of its own etc. Netflix does not currently collect province >> >information from customers (or any address info for that matter). >> > >> >They based many of their arguments on an OECD study (which ironically >> >the Canadian federal government says is not completed yet (as excuse for >> >not proceeding with similar tax). >> > >> >So foreign digital services will be required to require subscibers enter >> >AND VALIDATE their address so that they have an accurate province field >> >(validation remains to be finalized), and IF they sell more than $30,000 >> >to Qu??bec residents, will be required to self register with QC >> >government to collect local sales tax (and remit to QC government). >> > >> >The Qu??bec budget expects that validation of address will be based on IP >> >address geolocation or custoemrs send paper bills to prove place of >> >residence. >> > >> >(Although requiring full address/phone number and sendint this to credit >> >card network for authorization might constitute a better means to >> >validate address). >> > >> >I suspect the big winners will be VPN services in the USA :-) >> > >> >Because many ISPs span multiple provinces, IP geolocation generally >> >points to their HQ address, not necessarily the province of the >> >subscriber. (This is especially true for DSL in bell Canada wholesale >> >where currently a single point of connection between Bell and ISP allows >> >full reach of all of its DSL territory in QC/ON. For Cable, ISPs require >> >different IP pools for Rogers in Ontario and Vid??otron in Ontario (with >> >a couple of exceptions where Vid??otron has service in a couple fo >> >Ontario towns). In Western Canada, things are harder as Shaw serves BC, >> >AB, SASK and MB. >> >>-- >>Ken Chase - math () sizone org Guelph Canada >> > -- Ken Chase - math () sizone org Guelph Canada
Current thread:
- Québec Sales tax Jean-Francois Mezei (Mar 27)
- Re: Qu??bec Sales tax Ken Chase (Mar 27)
- Re: Qu??bec Sales tax Jean-Francois Mezei (Mar 27)
- Re: Qu??bec Sales tax Alain Hebert (Mar 28)
- Re: Qu??bec Sales tax Ken Chase (Mar 28)
- Re: Qu??bec Sales tax Jean-Francois Mezei (Mar 28)
- Re: Québec Sales tax Eric Dugas (Mar 27)
- Re: Québec Sales tax Jean-Francois Mezei (Mar 27)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Québec Sales tax Eric Dugas (Mar 27)
- Re: Qu??bec Sales tax Ken Chase (Mar 27)