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Re: Qu??bec Sales tax
From: Alain Hebert <ahebert () pubnix net>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 17:45:26 -0400
Same deal as Paypal and EBay.Netflix dropping their services in CDN/QC only serve <Yuo know who> attempt at making yet another market grab.
At the end Netflix may just charge the Tax and funnel it to the govt. They'll still be making a bundle.
( And with all the hardware already deployed locally at the many exchanges ... )
Now if we can only break that damn 1930's licensing scheme so that we can gain access to more content... Kinda annoyed that <You know who> is hogging all the content with their vertical licensing agreements.
----- Alain Hebert ahebert () pubnix net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443 On 03/27/18 18:21, Ken Chase wrote:
If Netflix has no physical presence in Quebec, what the lever are they going to use to force this? A lawsuit in <state of netflix incorporation> in the US? What court is going to entertain a foreign jurisdiction's tax claim in their court? And how would that be then enforced? Canada has tried this before: https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/u-s-judge-puts-halt-to-canadian-court-order-for-google-to-delist-search-results-1.3663055 Court file: https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/16701/index.do Im a big fan of Canada standing up for its sovereignty (I live here), but nice try. /kc On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 06:10:51PM -0400, Jean-Francois Mezei said: >Not quite networking but probably relevant. > >The Canadian province of Qu??bec just introduced a new budget with >basically the intent to force foreign digital companies who sell >services to Qu??bekers to collect the local value added sales tax and >remit those to the QC government. > >The goal is to capture tax from Netflix who has so far escaped taxation >in Canada by having no legal/physical presence in Canada, no cache >servers of its own etc. Netflix does not currently collect province >information from customers (or any address info for that matter). > >They based many of their arguments on an OECD study (which ironically >the Canadian federal government says is not completed yet (as excuse for >not proceeding with similar tax). > >So foreign digital services will be required to require subscibers enter >AND VALIDATE their address so that they have an accurate province field >(validation remains to be finalized), and IF they sell more than $30,000 >to Qu??bec residents, will be required to self register with QC >government to collect local sales tax (and remit to QC government). > >The Qu??bec budget expects that validation of address will be based on IP >address geolocation or custoemrs send paper bills to prove place of >residence. > >(Although requiring full address/phone number and sendint this to credit >card network for authorization might constitute a better means to >validate address). > >I suspect the big winners will be VPN services in the USA :-) > >Because many ISPs span multiple provinces, IP geolocation generally >points to their HQ address, not necessarily the province of the >subscriber. (This is especially true for DSL in bell Canada wholesale >where currently a single point of connection between Bell and ISP allows >full reach of all of its DSL territory in QC/ON. For Cable, ISPs require >different IP pools for Rogers in Ontario and Vid??otron in Ontario (with >a couple of exceptions where Vid??otron has service in a couple fo >Ontario towns). In Western Canada, things are harder as Shaw serves BC, >AB, SASK and MB. -- Ken Chase - math () sizone org Guelph Canada
Current thread:
- Québec Sales tax Jean-Francois Mezei (Mar 27)
- Re: Qu??bec Sales tax Ken Chase (Mar 27)
- Re: Qu??bec Sales tax Jean-Francois Mezei (Mar 27)
- Re: Qu??bec Sales tax Alain Hebert (Mar 28)
- Re: Qu??bec Sales tax Ken Chase (Mar 28)
- Re: Qu??bec Sales tax Jean-Francois Mezei (Mar 28)
- Re: Québec Sales tax Eric Dugas (Mar 27)
- Re: Québec Sales tax Jean-Francois Mezei (Mar 27)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Québec Sales tax Eric Dugas (Mar 27)
- Re: Qu??bec Sales tax Ken Chase (Mar 27)