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Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal
From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 20:13:39 -0500 (CDT)
What about little ISPs? There are already monetization platforms out there that can be resold to small ISPs. The company sells the aggregate data upstream. Not that I would, but in a small ISP, that money makes a big difference. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mel Beckman" <mel () beckman org> To: "Hugo Slabbert" <hugo () slabnet com> Cc: nanog () nanog org Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 8:08:19 PM Subject: Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Hugo, That's a great find! I note in the article: "Not only is the price of the premier service (with ads) only $70 a month, but it comes with a waiver of equipment, installation, and activation fees. The standard service without ads is $99 a month..." So that's $29 a month to let AT&T track your Web browsing, but only for targeting ads. ATT promises "And we won’t sell your personal information to anyone, for any reason." I would guess that the ability to sell that data would be worth several times the $29/month, so it's conceivable that a provider could offer $10/mo Gig Internet in exchange for browsing history. But nobody does. Because they think they can steal it. I think this pretty well demonstrates the greed of the big-ISP executives who lobbied for today's legislative atrocity, which lets them rob customers of browsing history that even AT&T execs acknowledge users own. -mel beckman On Mar 28, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Hugo Slabbert <hugo () slabnet com<mailto:hugo () slabnet com>> wrote: Now, if ISPs want to PURCHASE browser data from customers directly, I'm sure they'll get some takers. But that strategy has never appeared in any business plan I've seen. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/12/att-offers-gigabit-internet-discount-in-exchange-for-your-web-history/ ? -- Hugo Slabbert | email, xmpp/jabber: hugo () slabnet com<mailto:hugo () slabnet com> pgp key: B178313E | also on Signal
Current thread:
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal, (continued)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Tim Pozar (Mar 29)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Mel Beckman (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Seth Mattinen (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal valdis . kletnieks (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Eric Tykwinski (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Seth Mattinen (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Mel Beckman (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Seth Mattinen (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Hugo Slabbert (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Mel Beckman (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Mike Hammett (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Mel Beckman (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Mike Hammett (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Davide Davini (Mar 29)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Mel Beckman (Mar 29)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Christopher Morrow (Mar 28)