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Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal
From: Seth Mattinen <sethm () rollernet us>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 16:25:41 -0700
On 3/28/17 16:08, valdis.kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 15:51:43 -0700, Seth Mattinen said:Has there ever been a real survey that asks people where they think Google gets the money to support things like Gmail for "free"?There's a difference. Google only gets to aggregate data you pass to Google. Your ISP gets to aggregate data you pass to *anybody*. The difference matters.
I know, I'm not picking on Google like the other post was, other than to bring up that point that a lot of non-technical people don't connect that free Gmail means something has to pay for it. When I talk to people they have this expectation of free internet because ISPs charging for internet access is greedy when most most everything online is free. The internet is just a nebulous thing out there that's "free".
So ultimately you have ISPs that sell data to marketers so they can meet the demands from sales/marketing to offer $10 gigabit internet access with no contracts and free install.
~Seth
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- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Seth Mattinen (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal valdis . kletnieks (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Eric Tykwinski (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Seth Mattinen (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Mel Beckman (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Seth Mattinen (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Hugo Slabbert (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Mel Beckman (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Mike Hammett (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Mel Beckman (Mar 28)
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