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Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM
From: "John Levine" <johnl () iecc com>
Date: 29 Nov 2017 21:24:07 -0000
In article <85393a12-a51f-6722-4171-118919fcc2d0 () mtcc com> you write:
The real problem with large enterprise that we found, however, is that it was really hard to track down every 25 year old 386 sitting in dusty corners that was sending mail directly instead of through corpro servers to make certain that everything was signed that should be signed. Maybe that's gotten better in the last 15 years, but I'm not too hopeful.
No kidding. That's why you publish a DMARC policy record that says don't treat my mail any differently, but please send me summary reports about it. This lets you see where mail with your From: domain is coming from, to track down all those dusty servers. Once you've found them all, then you can decide whether publishing a policy is likely make things better or worse. You'll also find a whole lot of Chinese botnets that send out spam with random return addresses including yours, but they're not hard to tell apart. R's, John
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- Re: lists and DMARC and ARC, was Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM, (continued)
- Re: lists and DMARC and ARC, was Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Michael Thomas (Dec 01)
- Re: lists and DMARC and ARC, was Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Grant Taylor via NANOG (Dec 01)
- Re: lists and DMARC and ARC, was Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Michael Thomas (Dec 01)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Eric Kuhnke (Dec 01)
- RE: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Keith Medcalf (Dec 01)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Michael Thomas (Dec 01)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Grant Taylor via NANOG (Dec 01)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Michael Thomas (Dec 01)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Grant Taylor via NANOG (Dec 01)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Chuck Anderson (Dec 01)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM John Levine (Dec 01)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Grant Taylor via NANOG (Dec 01)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Grant Taylor via NANOG (Dec 01)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM John Levine (Dec 01)
- RE: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Keith Medcalf (Dec 01)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM John Levine (Dec 01)