Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

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                A very familiar pattern. Pretty soon, our children will be going to intergalactic governance fora 
debating v6 exhaustion and dusting off Jim Fleming’s ipv9
-srs
                
                

                —srs
        




On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 8:48 PM +0530, "Jason Iannone" <jason.iannone () gmail com> wrote:










M&A plays into this too.  By my calculations, CenturyLink controls at
least 17 million /48s.  How many sites does CenturyLink provide
service to?  I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's not 17 million.


3 acquisitions rolled up into AS209:

as3549
2605:a300::/32
2001:450::/32

as4323
2604:6680::/32
2602:ff99::/36
2620:12e:6000::/40
2620:10e:8000::/40
2620:124:8000::/44
2001:506:8::/48
2620:75::/48
2620:f:4000::/48
2620:3b:4000::/48
2620:c5:4000::/48

as3356
2607:6e00::/32
2606:8a00::/32
2604:3a00::/32
2605:1280::/32
2605:4680::/32
2605:c680::/32
2604:24c0::/32
2602:ffeb::/36
2602:ffe1::/36
2620:109::/40
2620:123:d000::/40
2620:12d:c000::/44
2620:42:4000::/48
2620:87:4000::/48
2620:8d:c000::/48
2620:ba:c000::/48
2620:f8:c000::/48
2604:5200:1007::/48
2620:6:e000::/48

as209
2602::/24
2606:5000::/32
2605:c680::/32
2602:ff5f::/36
2620:123:3000::/40
2620:12e:6000::/40
2620:9c:4000::/44
2620:122:4000::/44
2620:123:b000::/44
2001:428:902::/48
2001:428:7001::/48
2001:428:7004::/48
2001:428:4004::/48
2001:428:3000::/48
2001:428:2403::/48
2001:428:7005::/48
2001:428:939::/48
2001:428:6803::/48
2001:428:5003::/48
2001:428:e203::/48
2001:428:3804::/48
2620:0:2280::/48
2620:0:2b20::/48
2001:428:4c04::/48
2001:428:4c05::/48
2001:428:5004::/48
2001:428:1403::/48
2001:428:1404::/48
2001:428:6804::/48
2001:428:2502::/48
2001:428:2501::/48
2001:428:200c::/48
2001:428:480a::/48
2620:d9:8000::/48
2001:428:5804::/48
2001:428:2406::/48
2001:428:1804::/48
2001:428:2405::/48
2001:428:2408::/48
2001:428:1c03::/48
2001:428:6403::/48
2001:428:1803::/48
2001:428:7009::/48
2001:428:5806::/48
2620:42:4000::/48
2001:428:1405::/48
2001:428:3c03::/48
2001:428:e204::/48
2001:428:e205::/48
2001:428:1806::/48
2001:428:6805::/48
2001:428:1808::/48
2001:428:1809::/48
2001:428:a403::/48
2001:428:4407::/48
2001:428:3807::/48
2001:428:c0c::/48
2001:428:4003::/48
2001:428:4803::/48
2001:428:1003::/48
2001:428:3808::/48
2001:428:30::/48
2620:ac:c000::/48
2001:428:700c::/48
2001:428:5803::/48
2001:428:380b::/48
2001:428:380c::/48
2001:428:380d::/48
2001:428:4403::/48
2001:428:aa03::/48
2001:428:4404::/48
2001:428:2407::/48
2001:428:240b::/48
2001:428:4c09::/48
2001:428:700a::/48
2001:428:c08::/48
2001:428:2004::/48
2001:428:2404::/48
2001:428:7007::/48
2001:428:7405::/48
2001:428:c0b::/48
2001:428:4406::/48
2001:428:c05::/48
2001:428:c06::/48
2001:428:3805::/48
2001:428:4c07::/48
2001:428:2003::/48
2001:428:2005::/48
2001:428:6404::/48
2001:428:7404::/48
2001:428:240a::/48
2001:428:4405::/48
2001:428:4c08::/48
2001:428:2002::/48
2001:428:c09::/48
2001:428:240e::/48
2001:428:4408::/48
2001:428:380e::/48
2001:428:4005::/48
2001:428:4409::/48
2001:428:a404::/48
2001:428:1004::/48
2001:428:8c03::/48
2001:428:9e03::/48
2001:428:3810::/48
2001:428:700d::/48
2001:428:2006::/48
2001:428:6405::/48
2001:428:a405::/48
2001:428:8c04::/48
2001:428:5805::/48
2620:74:c040::/48
2620:6:e000::/48
2001:428:1805::/48
2001:428:b003::/48
2001:428:3c04::/48
2001:428:6400::/48
2001:428:8c00::/48
2001:428:9e00::/48
2001:428:1c00::/48
2001:428:7006::/48
2001:428:4c00::/48
2001:428:2400::/48
2001:428:7008::/48

source: source:
http://irrexplorer.nlnog.net/static/dumps/arin-whois-originas.json.bz2

Jason

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Mark Andrews  wrote:
> The RIR’s assignment to ISPs assume relatively dense assignment of /48 to customers.  ISPs still have to justify the 
> allocation based on the number of customers sites for shorter than a /32.  RIR assignments to non ISPs are also 
> relatively dense.  If you have multiple sites you don’t need contiguous addresses.
>
> Automatic assignment in homenet does dense assignment.
>
> > On 21 Dec 2017, at 12:27 pm, William Herrin  wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Mark Andrews  wrote:
> > Handing out /48’s to homes was never ever going to cause us to run out of IPv6 space.  Even if the homes are are 
> > connected to multiple providers there isn’t a issue.
> >
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > No single assignment practice would. Sadly no IPv6 addresses reach your computer directly from IANA. Multiple layers 
> > of assignment practices are happen along the way, each with
> > it's own cumulative consumption. Most of those layers were designed with the independent assumption that "we have so 
> > many IPv6 addresses, let's just not worry about how many bits are consumed at this step." With a cumulative effect 
> > on the consumption of IPv6 space.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bill Herrin
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > William Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com  bill () herrin us
> > Dirtside Systems ......... Web: 
>
> --
> Mark Andrews, ISC
> 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
> PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742              INTERNET: marka () isc org