Re: Novice sysadmins

[Tim Pozar <pozar () lns com>]

Should have an honorary list of great sysadmins.  In my years of doing
this sort of work, I found a number of folks that would lend a helping
hand.  To that, I would like to nominate:

Strata Rose Chalup
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Strata Rose Chalup began as a novice sysadmin in 1983 and has been
leading and managing complex IT projects ever since. She is a co-author
of The Practice of System and Network Administration and has taught at
USENIX Annual Tech and LISA for many years. Strata is always looking at
new technologies and is currently enjoying learning the Arduino
microcontroller platform.
[text from her USENIX conference page]


On 12/5/17 11:23 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> And then, let's not forget the BOFH! (http://www.bofharchive.com), and
> Mordac.
>
>
> On 12/5/17 11:40 AM, Sam Oduor wrote:
> > Subject of interest; my 15 years experience I met a blend of senior
> > admins
> > while learning the curves ......
> >
> > 1. Those who denied you knowledge/handover due to insecurity
> >
> > 2. Those who fed you with knowledge but were rude and could make you feel
> > like you undergoing some military training
> >
> > 3. Those who gave you manuals and told you go and read; hardcopy was a
> > common thing - I could deliberately stay back in the office and print a
> > whole library :-)
> >
> > 4. The rare breed that walked you through sysadmins !
> >
> >
> > Right now it seems the tables have turned around; I already feel I have
> > come to the end of the road as sysadmin but on a lighter note - I have
> > been
> > working hard on passing knowledge down and this are the new blend of
> > people
> > I have met.
> >
> > 1. Those willing to learn are very obedient but for some reason not up to
> > the task
> >
> > 2. Those who know everything you try to teach them; are kinda rude and
> > they
> > bring down systems - lab systems
> >
> > 3. Those who commit to be taught but never show up for free lessons
> > despite
> > offering them free lunch :-)
> >
> > 4. A rare young  breed that teaches me mobile apps and new games online -
> > the 90's champs !
> >
> > 5. A rare breed that goes the extra mile; sacrifice time and money to
> > learn
> > !
> >
> >
> > I love 4 & 5 !
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 7:54 PM, Grant Taylor via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 12/05/2017 09:17 AM, Harald Koch wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thirty years ago I started my sysadmin journey on an Internet that was
> > > > filled with helpful, experienced people that were willing to share
> > > > their
> > > > knowledge.
> > > The vast majority of what I've experienced in the last ~20 years has
> > > been
> > > people willing to help others who are trying to help themselves.
> > >
> > > If you are trying, make an honest mistake, and are willing to correct it
> > > when others politely let you know, you will quite likely find people
> > > willing to help you.  Especially if you return the favor in kind.
> > >
> > > If you are being a hooligan and not responding to problems reported
> > > to you
> > > or purposefully ~> wantonly doing things to others ... good luck.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > Grant. . . .
> > > unix || die