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Re: Dyn DDoS this AM?


From: George William Herbert <george.herbert () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 23:37:17 -0700

Oh god, you invoked @popehat ...

[dyndds and its customers sue XiongMai, the OEM integrators, and Does 1-10,000,000 who own the devices for 
neglegence?...]

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 21, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Chris Woodfield <rekoil () semihuman com> wrote:

As a Twitter network  engineer (and the guy Patrick let camp out in your hotel room all day) - thank you for this. 
Whoever was behind this just poked a hornet’s nest. 

“Govern yourselves accordingly”.

-C

(Obviously speaking for myself, not my employer…)

On Oct 21, 2016, at 10:48 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick () ianai net> wrote:

I cannot give additional info other than what’s been on “public media”.

However, I would very much like to say that this is a horrific trend on the Internet. The idea that someone can 
mention a DDoS then get DDoS’ed Can Not Stand. See Krebs’ on the Democratization of Censorship. See lots of other 
things.

To Dyn and everyone else being attacked:
The community is behind you. There are problems, but if we stick together, we can beat these miscreants.

To the miscreants:
You will not succeed. Search "churchill on the beaches”. It’s a bit melodramatic, but it’s how I feel at this moment.

To the rest of the community:
If you can help, please do. I know a lot of you are thinking “what can I do?" There is a lot you can do. BCP38 & 
BCP84 instantly come to mind. Sure, that doesn’t help Mirai, but it still helps. There are many other things you can 
do as well.

But a lot of it is just willingness to help. When someone asks you to help trace an attack, do not let the request 
sit for a while. Damage is being done. Help your neighbor. When someone’s house is burning, your current project, 
your lunch break, whatever else you are doing is almost certainly less important. If we stick together and help each 
other, we can - we WILL - win this war. If we are apathetic, we have already lost.


OK, enough motivational speaking for today. But take this to heart. Our biggest problem is people thinking they 
cannot or do not want to help.

-- 
TTFN,
patrick

On Oct 21, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann () gmail com> wrote:

Does anyone have any additional details? Seems to be over now, but I'm very
curious about the specifics of such a highly impactful attack (and it's
timing following NANOG 68)...

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/ddos-on-dyn-impacts-twitter-spotify-reddit/

-- 
@ChrisGrundemann
http://chrisgrundemann.com



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