RE: AW: Cogent - Google - HE Fun

[Damien Burke <damien () supremebytes com>]

Anyone who is multihomed with cogent ipv6 in their mix should shutdown their IPv6 bgp session. Let’s see if we can make 
their graph freefall.



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-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of William Herrin
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 7:56 AM
To: Dennis Burgess
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group
Subject: Re: AW: Cogent - Google - HE Fun



On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Dennis Burgess <dmburgess () linktechs net<mailto:dmburgess () linktechs net>> wrote:

> Not wishing to get into a pissing war with who is right or wrong, but

> it sounds like google already pays or has an agreement with cogent for

> v4, as that's unaffected, cogent says google is simply not advertising

> v6 prefixes to them, so, how is that cogent's fault?



Hi Dennis,



It's Cogent's fault because: double-billing. Google should not have to pay Cogent for a service which you have already 
paid Cogent to provide to you. Cogent's demand is unethical. They intentionally fail to deliver on the basic service 
expectation you pay them for and refuse to do so unless a third party to your contract also pays them.



Google, by contrast, makes no demand that Cogent pay them even though you are not paying Google for service. They offer 
"open peering," a free interconnect via many neutral data centers.



If you're not single-homed to Cogent and you have the balls for it, I would file an outage with Cogent and demand 
service credit until they resolve their IPv6 access problem with Google. And then refuse to pay until they connect with 
Google.



If you are single-homed to Cogent, it's *very* important that you do something about that before you get burned in a 
way that matters.



Regards,

Bill Herrin







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