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Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels
From: "Ricky Beam" <jfbeam () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2016 18:54:02 -0400
On Thu, 09 Jun 2016 13:32:24 -0400, Adam Rothschild <asr () latency net> wrote:
How can we, as a community, help move the needle on v6 deployment on broadband networks, in cases where competitive forces and market pressure don't exist?
You left out "consumer demand". And I would add consumer knowledge as well -- there won't be any demand until one knows to ask (it's cablecards all over again.) There are 7 billion people on Earth. I suspect it's a stretch to say even 100,000 of them understand IPv6. While there are a few ISPs who "have" IPv6, many of them have done so mostly for show -- World IPv6 Day marketing ploy[*].
For now, we'll have to continue the policy of public shaming...Despite TWC's claims ("IPv6 has been enabled on 100% of our cable Internet network.") [http://www.timewarnercable.com/en/support/faqs/faqs-internet/ipv6/why-don_t-i-have-ipv6-yet-.html] there's a very long list of exceptions... like: it's not been enabled on *your* headend, or *your* modem doesn't have it enabled, or we turned if off on that modem due to firmware bugs for which we've had fixes for over a year, or you're a business account that hasn't had it enabled, or you're a "powered by" customer for whom the banner ISP hasn't bothered to assign a prefix (*cough* f'ing Earthlink *cough*)
In fact, Earthlink's only IPv6 presence, ever, was the pet project of a single engineer. He was kicked out in 2008. The kludge ("auto-tunnel") continued to function for a few years before the hardware was turn off, recycled, etc. And then the entire research site disappear around 2010. Btw, they're still announcing that prefix [http://bgp.he.net/net/2001:4840::/32#_irr]
--Ricky[*] I know my company did. Our "IPv6 Presence" was a VM somewhere running nginx to proxy to the (amazon hosted) IPv4 sites. And it was gone the next day.
Current thread:
- Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels, (continued)
- Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels Eric Kuhnke (Jun 08)
- Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels John Lightfoot (Jun 09)
- Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels Michael Still (Jun 09)
- RE: Netflix banning HE tunnels Matthew Huff (Jun 09)
- Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels Michael Still (Jun 09)
- RE: Netflix banning HE tunnels Matthew Huff (Jun 09)
- Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels Sander Steffann (Jun 09)
- Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels Adam Rothschild (Jun 09)
- RE: Netflix banning HE tunnels Steve Mikulasik (Jun 09)
- Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels Cryptographrix (Jun 09)
- Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels Ricky Beam (Jun 09)
- Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels Mark Andrews (Jun 09)
- Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels Baldur Norddahl (Jun 09)
- Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels Ricky Beam (Jun 09)
- Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels Owen DeLong (Jun 12)
- Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels Ricky Beam (Jun 14)
- Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 14)
- Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels Owen DeLong (Jun 14)
- Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels Mark Milhollan (Jun 17)
- Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels Owen DeLong (Jun 20)
- IPv6 Ingress traffic by default Jared Mauch (Jun 20)