Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed

[Cryptographrix <cryptographrix () gmail com>]

Very true - I was being a bit extremist out of frustration, but I think
you're spot on - he.net tunnels and even 6to4 are toys to provide IPv6
support, not actually IPv6 support.

And I'm quite frustrated because there's so little actual v6 support, and I
*do* actually need it on a daily basis for work.

Because there's no actual ISP IPv6 support anywhere else (in parts of the
US that *have* multiple ISPs), you can't even make the case to your ISP
that it's a legitimate requirement for you because they know you're not
really going to get v6 elsewhere.




On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:22 AM Ca By <cb.list6 () gmail com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, June 7, 2016, Cryptographrix <cryptographrix () gmail com> wrote:
>
> > As I said to Netflix's tech support - if they advocate for people to turn
> > off IPv6 on their end, maybe Netflix should stop supporting it on their
> > end.
> >
> > It's in the air whether it's just an HE tunnel issue or an IPv6 issue at
> > the moment, and if their tech support is telling people to turn off IPv6,
> > maybe they should just instead remove their AAAA records.
> >
> > (or fail back to ipv4 when v6 looks like a tunnel)
> I think you need to reset your expectations of a free tunnel service.
>
> he.net tunnels are a toy for geeks looking to play with v6. In terms of
> Netflix subcriber base, it is amazing insignificant number of users.
>
> At the end of the day, anonymous tunnels, just like linux, are not
> supported by Netflix. And, he.net tunnel users are hurting ipv6 overall
> just like 6to4 by injecting FUD and other nonesense complexity.... For a
> toy.
>
> Move on to a real issue instead of beating this dead horse.
>
> CB
>
>
> > On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 9:22 AM Mark Felder <feld () feld me> wrote:
> >
> > > > On Jun 6, 2016, at 22:25, Spencer Ryan <sryan () arbor net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The tunnelbroker service acts exactly like a VPN. It allows you, from
> > any
> > > > arbitrary location in the world with an IPv4 address, to bring traffic
> > > out
> > > > via one of HE's 4 POP's, while completely masking your actual
> > location.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Perhaps Netflix should automatically block any connection that's not
> > from
> > > a known residential ISP or mobile ISP as anything else could be a server
> > > someone is proxying through. It's very easy to get these subnets -- the
> > > spam filtering folks have these subnets well documented. /s
> > >
> > > --
> > >   Mark Felder
> > >   feld () feld me