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Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed
From: Damian Menscher <menscher () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 16:45:56 -0700
On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Laszlo Hanyecz <laszlo () heliacal net> wrote:
On 2016-06-05 22:48, Damian Menscher wrote:What *is* standard about them? My earliest training as a sysadmin taught me that any time you switch away from a default setting, you're venturing into the unknown. Your config is no longer well-tested; you may experience strange errors; nobody else will have seen the same bugs. That's exactly what's happening here -- people are setting up IPv6 tunnel broker connections, then complaining that there are unexpected side effects.There are a lot of non technical Netflix users who are being told to turn off IPv6, switch ISPs, get a new VPN, etc. because Netflix has a broken system. Those users don't care what IPv6 is, they just learn that it's bad because it breaks Netflix. Most users have no way to change these things and they just aren't going to be able to use Netflix anymore.
Who are these non-technical Netflix users who accidentally stumbled into having a HE tunnel broker connection without their knowledge? I wasn't aware this sort of thing could happen without user consent, and would like to know if I'm wrong. Only thing I can imagine is if ISPs are using HE as a form of CGN. Another question: what benefit does one get from having a HE tunnel broker connection? Is it just geek points, or is there a practical benefit too? Damian
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- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Mark Felder (Jun 06)
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- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Baldur Norddahl (Jun 06)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Mark Felder (Jun 07)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Damian Menscher (Jun 05)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Christopher Morrow (Jun 05)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Livingood, Jason (Jun 06)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Chris Baker (Jun 06)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Laszlo Hanyecz (Jun 05)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Spencer Ryan (Jun 05)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Mark Andrews (Jun 05)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Damian Menscher (Jun 05)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Spencer Ryan (Jun 05)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Mark Andrews (Jun 05)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Laszlo Hanyecz (Jun 05)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Christopher Morrow (Jun 05)
- Re: HE tunnels, was Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed John Levine (Jun 05)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Mark Tinka (Jun 06)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Scott Morizot (Jun 06)
- RE: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Matthew Huff (Jun 06)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Spencer Ryan (Jun 06)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed John Peach (Jun 06)