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Re: Some doubts on large scale BGP/AS design and black hole routing risk


From: "Bill Woodcock" <woody () pch net>
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 20:28:50 -0700


Are respondents to suppose that the customer base and address space are evenly divided between the two cities, and that 
the ISP is too clueless to originate each /23 from the city that uses it, in iBGP?

    
                -Bill


On Apr 3, 2016, at 15:04, "magicboiz () hotmail com" <magicboiz () hotmail com> wrote:

Hi everybody!


as part of laboratory work at the university,  I'm working on a BGP design study, and I would like to post some 
questions regarding IP address space allocation and its impact on BGP which are breaking my mind :)

Let's suppose we have an ISP/AS with two POPs: PARIS and LONDON. These two POPs are connected with redundant leased 
lines. Each POP has a BGP router speaking eBGP to different ISP providers/upstreams and also, each POP run its own 
OSPF area/ISIS area. Something like this:


<INET> ---eBGP---<LONDON POP-ospf area1>===redundant leased lines (ospf area0)===<PARIS POP- ospf 
area2>---eBGP---<INET>

Now, this AS/ISP gets one /22 prefix from it RIR (RIPE in this case), and starts to announce it to its upstreams in 
PARIS and LONDON at the same time.


My questions are:

1. What could happen in the case of total failure in the redundant leased lines? Black hole routing between POPs?

2. What are the best design methods to avoid this scenario?

  2.1: adding a third POP creating a triangle? What if a POP looses connection with the other two POPs at the same 
time? Another black hole?

  2.2: requesting another prefix and allocating 1:1 prefix:POP, so in the scenario each POP only would announce its 
prefix to the upstreams?

  2.3: other?



Thanks in advance!
J.



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