nanog mailing list archives

Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption


From: Chuck Anderson <cra () WPI EDU>
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 18:45:05 -0400

On Fri, Oct 02, 2015 at 08:28:13AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote:

In message <4F2E19BA-D92A-4BEC-86E2-33B405C307BE () delong com>, Owen DeLong writes:

On Oct 1, 2015, at 13:55 , Grzegorz Janoszka <Grzegorz () Janoszka pl>
wrote:

On 2015-10-01 20:29, Owen DeLong wrote:
However, I think eventually the residential ISPs are going to start
charging extra
for IPv4 service.

ISP's will not charge too much. With too expensive IPv4 many customers
will migrate from v4/dual stack to v6-only and ISP's will be left with
unused IPv4 addresses and less income.

Nope… They’ll be left with unused IPv4 addresses which is not a
significant source of income and they’ll be able to significantly reduce
the costs incurred
in supporting things like CGNAT.

Will ISP's still find other profitable usage for v4 addresses? If not,
they will be probably be quite slowly rising IPv4 pricing, not wanting to
overprice it.

Probably they will sell it to business customers instead of the
residential customers. However, we’re talking about relatively large
numbers of customers
for relatively small numbers of IPv4 addresses that aren’t producing
revenue directly at this time anyway.

Even with $1/IPv4/month - what will be the ROI of a brand new home
router?

About 2.5 years at that price since a brand new home router is about $29.

Owen

The hard part is the internet connected TV's and other stuff which
fetches content over the internet which are IPv4 only despite being
released when IPv6 existed.  These are theoretically upgradable to
support IPv6 so long as the manufactures release a IPv6 capable
image.  The real question is will governments force them to do this.

Upgrading the router is a no brainer.  Upgrading the TV, games
consoles, e-readers, etc. starts to add up.

Just brand it as the new "6-D" TV with "128 bits of goodness to
outperform your obsolete 32 bit TV!".  Then people will flock to the
stores to upgrade...


Current thread: