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Re: DNSSEC and ISPs faking DNS responses


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 20:32:10 -0800


On Nov 13, 2015, at 19:27 , Roland Dobbins <rdobbins () arbor net> wrote:

On 14 Nov 2015, at 10:22, Owen DeLong wrote:

Surely time will tell, but I would not be so quick to dismiss this as a potential workaround after watching how 
quickly TOR was adopted to move video around during the Arab Spring.

By a tiny minority of people.

Selection bias.

Most people do not know what a 'VPN' is, or how to install one and get it working.  The number of people who do may 
increase somewhat over time due to various restrictions they seek to overcome, but it will never become anything 
close to the norm unless it is a default.

20 years ago, most people didn’t know what a URL or a Domain name was.

18 years ago, they were on every billboard.

People learn stuff as they need to.

Today, the vast majority of people don’t need to know what a VPN is.

New Zealand has become a notable exception to this situation as a result of their desire to watch US Netflix 
programming.

I see no reason to believe it would be 

Go out onto the street and ask a selection of random passers-by if they know what a VPN is, if they know how to 
install one, if they've installed one.

Not a valid test… Go out onto the street and ask a random number of people over 30 if they know what a URL is and how 
to enter one into a browser.

Now, ask if they learned that more or less than 20 years ago.

In 1930, nobody knew what a television was, let alone a television remote control. Today, the average 6 year old can 
operate a DirectTV satellite system with a relatively high degree of facility.

What the average person knows changes over time. Assuming that it does not strikes me as either (1) ignoring history or 
(2) underestimating the general public even more than I do, which is saying something.

Owen


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