Re: [SECURITY] Application layer attacks/DDoS attacks

[jim deleskie <deleskie () gmail com>]

Keith,

  I agree, we can't even get everyone including some LARGE ( I'll avoid
Tier's because people get stupid around that too) networks to filter
customers based on assigned netblocks.

-jim

On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Keith Medcalf <kmedcalf () dessus com> wrote:

> Without a concomitant increase in "trustworthy", assigning greater levels
> of trust is fools endeavour.  Whatever this trusted network initiative is,
> I take that  it was designed by fools or government (the two are usually
> indistinguishable) for the purpose of creating utterly untrustworthy
> networks.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Ramy Hashish
> > Sent: Sunday, 24 May, 2015 22:49
> > To: morrowc.lists () gmail com; nanog () nanog org
> > Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Application layer attacks/DDoS attacks
> >
> > The idea of restricting access to a certain content during an attack on
> > the
> > "trusted networks" only will make all interested ISPs be more "trusted"
> >
> > Ramy
> >
> > On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 5:01 AM, Christopher Morrow
> > <morrowc.lists () gmail com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 9:12 PM, jim deleskie <deleskie () gmail com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > However, the trusted network initiative might be a good approach to
> > > start
> > > > > influencing operators to apply anti-spoofing mechanisms.
> > >
> > > explain how you think the 'trusted network initiative' matters in the
> > > slightest?
> > >
> > > -chris