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Re: [SECURITY] Application layer attacks/DDoS attacks
From: jim deleskie <deleskie () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 22:12:35 -0300
While I don't think any ISP "wants DDoS" to make $$, I do based on experience believe that business cases have to be made for everything. With the prices pay for BW in most of the world now, ( or the last number of years) its going to be VERY hard to get anyone to allocated time/$$ or energy to do anything they don't need to, to get the bit to you. -jim On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Ramy Hashish <ramy.ihashish () gmail com> wrote:
Yes Harlan, you are absolutely right, even if this won't stop the botnet-based DDoS attacks, but at least will significantly decrease the volume/frequency of the volume based attacks. On the other side, the DDoS protection now become a business where all-tiers ISPs make money of, and those ISPs is the exact place where the implementation of anti-spoofing make the best sense, conflict of interests now... However, the trusted network initiative might be a good approach to start influencing operators to apply anti-spoofing mechanisms. Salam, Ramy On 23 May 2015 10:48 pm, "Harlan Stenn" <stenn () ntp org> wrote: Just to ask, what is the expected effect on DDoS attacks if folks implemented BCP38? How does the cost of implementing BCP38 compare to the cost of other solution attempts? H
Current thread:
- [SECURITY] Application layer attacks/DDoS attacks Ramy Hashish (May 23)
- Re: [SECURITY] Application layer attacks/DDoS attacks jim deleskie (May 23)
- Re: [SECURITY] Application layer attacks/DDoS attacks Harlan Stenn (May 23)
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- Re: [SECURITY] Application layer attacks/DDoS attacks Ramy Hashish (May 23)
- Re: [SECURITY] Application layer attacks/DDoS attacks jim deleskie (May 23)
- Re: [SECURITY] Application layer attacks/DDoS attacks Christopher Morrow (May 24)
- Re: [SECURITY] Application layer attacks/DDoS attacks Ramy Hashish (May 24)
- Re: [SECURITY] Application layer attacks/DDoS attacks Randy Bush (May 24)
- RE: [SECURITY] Application layer attacks/DDoS attacks Keith Medcalf (May 25)
- Re: [SECURITY] Application layer attacks/DDoS attacks jim deleskie (May 25)
- Re: [SECURITY] Application layer attacks/DDoS attacks Roland Dobbins (May 25)
- Re: [SECURITY] Application layer attacks/DDoS attacks Roland Dobbins (May 25)
- Re: [SECURITY] Application layer attacks/DDoS attacks Harlan Stenn (May 23)
- Re: [SECURITY] Application layer attacks/DDoS attacks jim deleskie (May 23)
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- Re: [SECURITY] Application layer attacks/DDoS attacks Scott Weeks (May 23)
- Re: [SECURITY] Application layer attacks/DDoS attacks Roland Dobbins (May 23)