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Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality
From: manning bill <bmanning () isi edu>
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2015 14:50:57 -0800
Frank was the most vocal… the biggest cidr deployment issue was hardware vendors with “baked-in” assumptions about addressing. IPv6 is doing the same thing with its /64 nonsense. /bill PO Box 12317 Marina del Rey, CA 90295 310.322.8102 On 1March2015Sunday, at 13:37, David Conrad <drc () virtualized org> wrote:
On Mar 1, 2015, at 4:26 PM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:It was the combination of asymmetric, no or few IPs (and NAT), and bandwidth caps.let's not rewrite history here: IPv4 address scarcity has been a thing since the very early 1990s. Otherwise why would cidr have been created?CIDR had nothing to do with address scarcity.Untrue. CIDR was created in response to the proliferation of "class Cs" being allocated instead of "class Bs". The reason class Cs were being allocated instead of class Bs was due to projections (I believe by Frank Solensky and/or Noel Chiappa) that showed we would exhaust the Class B pool by 1990 or somesuch. This led to the ALE (Address Lifetime Extensions) and CIDRD working groups that pushed for the allocation of blocks of class Cs instead of Class Bs. CIDR also allowed for more appropriately sized blocks to be allocated instead of one-size-fits-most of class Bs. This increased address utilization which likely extended the life of the IPv4 free pool. Regards, -drc
Current thread:
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality, (continued)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Barry Shein (Mar 03)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Scott Helms (Mar 03)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Barry Shein (Mar 03)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Scott Helms (Mar 10)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Barry Shein (Mar 10)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Miles Fidelman (Mar 02)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Dave Taht (Mar 01)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Owen DeLong (Mar 01)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality David Conrad (Mar 01)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality manning bill (Mar 01)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Stephen Satchell (Mar 01)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Joe Greco (Mar 01)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Stephen Sprunk (Mar 02)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Scott Helms (Mar 02)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Daniel Taylor (Mar 02)