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Re: content regulation, was Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality


From: Scott Helms <khelms () zcorum com>
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 15:29:06 -0500

San Jose is most certainly not a pure coax network and is HFC.

HSD does mean High Speed Data.
On Mar 2, 2015 3:26 PM, "Owen DeLong" <owen () delong com> wrote:

Not so sure about that…

240.59.103.76.in-addr.arpa. 7200 IN  PTR
c-76-103-59-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net.

is most definitely a business class service from Comcast. Seems to match
the entry for 24.7.48.153 pretty closely.

I think the difference is the type of cable network in the particular
area. HFC is Hybrid Fiber Coax. The network in San Jose doesn’t really have
any fiber, so it’s likely not an HFC network. I’m not sure what HSD stands
for other than possibly “High Speed Data”, but I suspect it’s more likely
some cable-specific term for an all-copper alternative to HFC.

Owen

On Mar 2, 2015, at 03:39 , Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org> wrote:

On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 11:58:34AM -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote:
business vs consumer edition products? (that'd be my bet)

I think these are all residential customers, as business customers
appear to use different subdomains and/or host naming conventions, e.g.:

      24.7.48.153     c-24-7-48-153.hsd1.ca.comcast.net
      24.10.217.142   c-24-10-217-142.hsd1.ut.comcast.net
      24.129.85.220   c-24-129-85-220.hsd1.fl.comcast.net
vs.
      70.88.25.201
70-88-25-201-chesterfield-va.hfc.comcastbusiness.net
      70.90.158.37    70-90-158-37-knoxville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net
      70.91.133.105   70-91-133-105-ma-ne.hfc.comcastbusiness.net

Or:
      23.240.176.98   cpe-23-240-176-98.socal.res.rr.com
      24.25.253.81    cpe-24-25-253-81.hawaii.res.rr.com
      24.27.121.156   cpe-24-27-121-156.tx.res.rr.com
vs.
      24.106.98.106   rrcs-24-106-98-106.central.biz.rr.com
      24.142.142.169  rrcs-24-142-142-169.central.biz.rr.com
      24.173.100.134  rrcs-24-173-100-134.sw.biz.rr.com

Those are all (very recent) direct-to-MX on port 25 spam sources, but it
looks to me like the first group in each set is residential and the
second
group is business.  But perhaps I'm misinterpreting the naming.

---rsk




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