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Re: PPPoE/IPoE, any recommendations for upgrade?
From: Scott Helms <khelms () zcorum com>
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 00:57:43 -0400
There are alternative solutions. We're looking at using one from ABN for a customer that perseveres all of the AAA functionality and supports IPoE with the same integrationhooks as PPPoE and handles both at the same time to make transition easier. The project is being staged right now but anyone who wants to be kept in the loop in how it goes can contact me off list. On Jun 8, 2015 11:34 PM, "Colton Conor" <colton.conor () gmail com> wrote:
Suspend or shut down a user is easy, just disable their port on the DSLAM or change their port to a VLAN that only allows them to access/pay their bill. Going to PPPoE to IPoE increases the net throughput right? On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 1:16 AM, Nasser Heidari <nasser () rasana net> wrote:On Sun, 7 Jun 2015, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:- If you are already using IPoE, tell more why should I upgrade?The IPoE and IPoEoADSL I have done didn't need radius, didn't need BNG,didn'tneed a lot of the complications you're talking about. It couldbasicallybe realised inany decent L3 switch as default gateway for the customers instead ofneeding BNG.So I'd say if you want to get full potential of IPoE you need to dosimplification aswell, otherwise there is little use in doing the work if he only thingyou want tochange is from IPoPPPoE to IPoE encapsulation and keep all the otherstuff you'redoing. IPoPPPoE requires special CPE and router at your end to achieve highspeeds,because they need to support encapsulation/decapsulation of packets atwhateverspeed you provide. The number of devices that do this is a lot smallerthan theones that do decent speeds with just IPoE. So some people will say migrating to IPoE from IPoPPPoE buys themnothing,because they feel they need all the mechanisms they currently use. Greenfield deployments might say "hey, we can do this without a lot ofthe neededmechanisms for IPoPPPoE" and save a lot of money and complication. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike () swm pp seThanks for your reply. I'm would like this simplicity if I could keepsamefunctionalities I have in PPPoE. By functionalities I mean: - AAA - Triple-ply services and classified accounting per service - Possibility to suspend a user service in case of over-quota - applying fair-share policies Do I have any option to have simplicity and same functionality together? Regards, Nasser
Current thread:
- PPPoE/IPoE, any recommendations for upgrade? Nasser Heidari (Jun 06)
- Re: PPPoE/IPoE, any recommendations for upgrade? Mikael Abrahamsson (Jun 07)
- RE: PPPoE/IPoE, any recommendations for upgrade? Nasser Heidari (Jun 07)
- RE: PPPoE/IPoE, any recommendations for upgrade? Mikael Abrahamsson (Jun 07)
- Re: PPPoE/IPoE, any recommendations for upgrade? Colton Conor (Jun 08)
- Re: PPPoE/IPoE, any recommendations for upgrade? Scott Helms (Jun 08)
- RE: PPPoE/IPoE, any recommendations for upgrade? Nasser Heidari (Jun 07)
- Re: PPPoE/IPoE, any recommendations for upgrade? Mikael Abrahamsson (Jun 07)
- Re: PPPoE/IPoE, any recommendations for upgrade? Eduardo Schoedler (Jun 09)
- Re: PPPoE/IPoE, any recommendations for upgrade? Sabri Berisha (Jun 10)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: PPPoE/IPoE, any recommendations for upgrade? Murat Kaipov (Jun 07)