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Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion
From: Dave Taht <dave.taht () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 09:08:03 -0700
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Harald Koch <chk () pobox com> wrote:
On 9 July 2015 at 11:42, Matthew Huff <mhuff () ox com> wrote:What am I missing? Is it just the splitting on the sextet boundary that is an issue, or do people think people really need 64k subnets per household?
It is wasting that /64 on each separate media, lan type, or security model.
One thing you're missing is that some of these new-fangled uses for IP networking will want to do their own subnetting. It's not "here's a subnet for the car", it's "here's a /56 for the car to break into smaller pieces as required". A /56 isn't 256 subnets, it's 8 levels of subnetting (or 2 levels, if you're human and want to subnet at nibble boundaries). A /48 is 16 (or 4) levels. I have four vehicles, so I'd want to carve out a /52 for "the car network" to make the routing and security easier to manage, and leave room for expansion (or for my guests...) One more consideration for you: we're currently allocating all IPv6 addresses out of 2000::/3. That's 1/8th of the space available. If we discover we've messed up with this sparse address allocation idea, we have 7/8ths of the remaining space left to do something different.
And the colonists of Alpha Centauri will curse our shortsightedness.
-- Harald
-- Dave Täht worldwide bufferbloat report: http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/results/bufferbloat And: What will it take to vastly improve wifi for everyone? https://plus.google.com/u/0/explore/makewififast
Current thread:
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion, (continued)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Ricky Beam (Jul 08)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Mark Andrews (Jul 08)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Baldur Norddahl (Jul 08)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Owen DeLong (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Tony Finch (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Mike Hammett (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Harald Koch (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Marco Teixeira (Jul 09)
- RE: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Matthew Huff (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Harald Koch (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Dave Taht (Jul 09)
- RE: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Matthew Huff (Jul 09)
- RE: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Tony Finch (Jul 09)
- RE: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Naslund, Steve (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Owen DeLong (Jul 09)
- RE: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Naslund, Steve (Jul 09)
- RE: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Tyler Applebaum (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Jared Mauch (Jul 09)
- RE: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Matthew Huff (Jul 09)
- RE: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Naslund, Steve (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Ricky Beam (Jul 09)