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Re: Checkpoint IPS


From: "Roland Dobbins" <rdobbins () arbor net>
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 04:47:31 +0700


On 6 Feb 2015, at 4:24, Terry Baranski wrote:

It highlights the importance of knowing what you're doing in the real world, on networks that exist and which you actually understand intimately,
end-to-end.

Absolutely. At least one of the parties in this discussion has such knowledge of and experience on real-world networks of considerable scale, and is not infrequently engaged hands-on in the preservation of availability on said networks in fraught circumstances.

And maybe also of not working for vendors, since these two things are often mutually exclusive.

Again, absolutely. At least one of the parties has seen firsthand the extremely negative impact of the devices in question on a broad array of large-scale production networks ever since said devices were first introduced in the 1990s, having been awakened at 0Dark30 on numerous occasions with pleas for assistance because 'the network is down', 'the data center is offline', 'our entire wireless broadband network is down', et. al., due to the manifest failings of such devices.

Anyways, enough. This topic has been thoroughly discussed multiple times on this list and on others of an operational nature; if you believe it wise to discount the well-understood negative impact of such devices on availability, that is your choice.

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Roland Dobbins <rdobbins () arbor net>


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