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Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality]
From: Miles Fidelman <mfidelman () meetinghouse net>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 13:59:37 -0500
Michael Thomas wrote:
On 02/28/2015 08:59 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:20 years ago was into AOL's prime, so yes they did.Great, let's re-evaluate the system when demand necessitates it. For many systems, it's literally as simple as changing how many channels are allocated to what directions.By that logic, we would have been running 486s with 32 gigs of RAM because some people today use that much. *shakes head* Obviously the majority of the dissent here works with OPM.The point is that the incumbents (= telephants) at the time looked at even the minuscule AOL user base with disdain saying that their market share was irrelevant. Even into the early 2000's these same guys thought that voice was the only thing that really mattered because the new fangled internet users were outliers from their pots bread and butter. We now know those outliers were important. Being dismissiveof them is dangerous.
Actually, I think the incumbents do get it, at this point - at least Verizon does. FIOS is a pretty nice offering, and they offer some pretty high speeds, both up and down. It's just that they've stopped their buildout with the large markets; but they've been a power behind the state level anti-municipal broadband laws. Kind of annoying that, in areas where they have no intention of building out, they want to stand in the way of folks who want to do it themselves.
Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra
Current thread:
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality], (continued)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Philip Dorr (Feb 27)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Mark Tinka (Feb 27)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Mike Hammett (Feb 28)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] James R Cutler (Feb 28)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Mike Hammett (Feb 28)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Stephen Satchell (Feb 28)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Mike Hammett (Feb 28)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Michael Thomas (Feb 28)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Mike Hammett (Feb 28)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Michael Thomas (Feb 28)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Miles Fidelman (Feb 28)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Mike Hammett (Feb 28)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Owen DeLong (Feb 28)
- RE: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Gary Wardell (Feb 28)
- RE: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Gary Wardell (Feb 28)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Mark Andrews (Feb 28)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Owen DeLong (Feb 28)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Mike Hammett (Feb 28)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] James R Cutler (Feb 28)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Mike Hammett (Feb 28)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Miles Fidelman (Feb 28)