Re: gmail spam help

[Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists () gmail com>]

Please. Gmail isn't ever likely to use long dead hobbyist block lists.
On Feb 12, 2015 9:38 PM, "Daniel Taylor" <dtaylor () vocalabs com> wrote:

> Possibly related: http://www.ahbl.org/content/changes-ahbl
>
> We had to manually remove it from spamassassin for our local installation,
> and I am pretty sure that a lot of sites still haven't figured it out so
> there's a lot of false positives being generated all over the place to
> throw off even filters that don't use it directly.
>
> On 02/12/2015 09:54 AM, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
>
> > Mainly because I own it, and the people who use it. The server has been
> > around 10+ years and has tight oversight. SPF is proper. This is a recent
> > issue.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Scott Helms [mailto:khelms () zcorum com]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 10:51 AM
> > To: Alex Rubenstein
> > Cc: Josh Luthman; NANOG list
> > Subject: Re: gmail spam help
> >
> > I'd be interested to know how you can be so adamant about the lack of
> > spam from this specific server.  A great percentage of the spam hitting
> > servers I have visibility into comes from very similar kinds of set ups
> > because they tend to have little or no over sight in place.
> >
> > Also, lots of commercial email gets flagged as spam by users, even when
> > they opted in for the email.  If enough people flagged email from this
> > server as spam it will cause Google to consider other email from the same
> > small server as likely to be spam as well.  Small systems, especially new
> > ones, tend to unintentionally look like spam sources by not having proper
> > reverse records, making sure you have SPF set up for the domain, etc.
> >
> >
> > Scott Helms
> > Vice President of Technology
> > ZCorum
> > (678) 507-5000
> > --------------------------------
> > http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
> > --------------------------------
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Alex Rubenstein <alex () corp nac net
> > <mailto:alex () corp nac net>> wrote:
> > I should have been clearer.
> >
> > I have been getting complaints from my sales folks that when they send
> > emails to people who use gmail (either a gmail account or google apps) that
> > they recipient is reporting that the email is ending up in the Spam folder.
> > So, I tested this myself, sending an email from alex () corp nac net<mailto:
> > alex () corp nac net><mailto:alex () corp nac net<mailto:alex () corp nac net>>
> > to rubenstein45 () gmail com<mailto:rubenstein45 () gmail com><mailto:
> > rubenstein45 () gmail com<mailto:rubenstein45 () gmail com>>
> >
> > [cid:image001.png@01D046AD.3B2FA890]
> >
> > This is curious to me, since @corp.nac.net<http://corp.nac.net> is a
> > small exchange implementation with only about 50 users behind it, and there
> > is no question that there is no spamming going on from here.
> >
> > So, it’s not a question of adding a filter or not using gmail; it is not
> > me who is using gmail in this problem.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh () imaginenetworksllc com<mailto:
> > josh () imaginenetworksllc com>]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 9:32 AM
> > To: Alex Rubenstein
> > Cc: NANOG list
> > Subject: Re: gmail spam help
> >
> >
> > Create a filter.
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340>
> > Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343>
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> > On Feb 12, 2015 8:11 AM, "Alex Rubenstein" <alex () corp nac net<mailto:alex
> > @corp.nac.net><mailto:alex () corp nac net<mailto:alex () corp nac net>>>
> > wrote:
> > Is there anyone on-list that can help me with a world -> gmail email
> > issue, where email is being considering spam by gmail erroneously?
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> --
> Daniel Taylor          VP Operations            Vocal Laboratories, Inc.
> dtaylor () vocalabs com   http://www.vocalabs.com/            (612)235-5711