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RE: Nat
From: "Keith Medcalf" <kmedcalf () dessus com>
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 21:06:26 -0700
You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink. If people choose to be the authors of their own misfortunes, that is their choice. I know a good many folks who are not members of NANOG yet have multiple separate L2 and L3 networks to keep the "crap" isolated.
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+kmedcalf=dessus.com () nanog org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, 20 December, 2015 20:37 Cc: North American Network Operators Group Subject: Re: Nat We can't get people to use passwords judiciously (create them at all for WiFi, change them, use more than one, etc.) and now you want them to manage networks? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Fischer" <randy.fischer () gmail com> To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net> Cc: "North American Network Operators Group" <nanog () nanog org> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 9:34:16 PM Subject: Re: Nat On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Mike Hammett < nanog () ics-il net > wrote: Most people couldn't care less and just want the Internet on their device to work. Well, if the best practice for CPE routers included as a matter of course the subnets "connected to internet", "local only (e.g. IoT)" and "guest network", and if they just worked, then they wouldn't mind that either. A friend of mine used to refer to this as 'refrigerator consciousness" - he was a gearhead, so it was a pejorative. Instead, I think of it as a design goal. -Randy Fischer
Current thread:
- Re: Nat, (continued)
- Re: Nat Mike Hammett (Dec 21)
- Re: Nat Matt Palmer (Dec 20)
- Re: Nat Matt Palmer (Dec 20)
- RE: Nat Chuck Church (Dec 20)
- Re: Nat 'Matt Palmer' (Dec 20)
- RE: Nat Jon Lewis (Dec 21)
- Re: Nat Mark Andrews (Dec 20)