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Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch
From: John Schiel <jschiel () flowtools net>
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:13:29 -0600
On 10/22/2014 10:43 AM, C. Jon Larsen wrote:
Hardly. The discussion so far has been weighted very heavily on the side of Dana Carvey's "Grumpy Old Man"-style whining. "That's the way it was and we liked it!". The people that like systemd (like myself) have wisely learned that the people that hate systemd, hate it mostly because it's different from what came before and don't want to change. There's no way to argue rationally with that.Incorrect assumption. systemd is a massive security hole waiting to happen and it does not follow the unix philosophy of done 1 thing and do it well/correct.
i was beginning to wonder how secure systemd is also. --John
Its basically ignoring 40 years of best practices. Thats why folks that have been there, done that, dont want any part of it. Not because its new, but because its a flawed concept.You are free to use it, but it would be a poor choice for system that has hopes of being secure.-- Jeff Ollie
Current thread:
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch, (continued)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jeffrey Ollie (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch C. Jon Larsen (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Andrew Sullivan (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Daniel Corbe (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Andrew Sullivan (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Randy Bush (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Barry Shein (Oct 23)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jeffrey Ollie (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jamie Lawrence (Oct 23)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Miles Fidelman (Oct 23)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch John Schiel (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jeffrey Ollie (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch John Schiel (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jeffrey Ollie (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Miles Fidelman (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Randy Bush (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jeffrey Ollie (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jeffrey Ollie (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Israel G. Lugo (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jay Ashworth (Oct 24)