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Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch
From: Andrew Sullivan <asullivan () dyn com>
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 15:04:51 -0400
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 01:35:26PM -0400, Daniel Corbe wrote:
Not to get even further off topic here but when was the last time you maintained a BSD system? FreeBSD (at least) adopted binary package management as its preferred interface to ports through pkg-ng somewhere in the 9-RELEASE cycle.
Yeah, it was some time ago (fortunately, people keep me far away from systems administration now). But that doesn't exactly help: since others drew the same conclusion, _even if BSD is now a perfectly rational choice_, I've lost functionality I desire. Docker is a great example of this. For many use cases, it's obviously better than the alternatives. So now I _can't_ pick FreeBSD. And so on.
This systemd debacle is an excellent reason to look into stuff that isn't Linux. The Linux camp all too often become victims of "not invented here"
I don't think the latter is restricted to the Linux world! But as I suggested, the network security implications of all that stuff hidden in one critical system sure seem to require some thinking. A -- Andrew Sullivan Dyn, Inc. asullivan () dyn com v: +1 603 663 0448
Current thread:
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch, (continued)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Miles Fidelman (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Måns Nilsson (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Barry Shein (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jay Ashworth (Oct 24)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jeffrey Ollie (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Miles Fidelman (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jeffrey Ollie (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch C. Jon Larsen (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Andrew Sullivan (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Daniel Corbe (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Andrew Sullivan (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Randy Bush (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Barry Shein (Oct 23)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Miles Fidelman (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jeffrey Ollie (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jamie Lawrence (Oct 23)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Miles Fidelman (Oct 23)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch John Schiel (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jeffrey Ollie (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch John Schiel (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jeffrey Ollie (Oct 22)