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Re: IPv6 Default Allocation - What size allocation are you giving out


From: Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 22:25:10 +0200

On 9 October 2014 22:01, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:

Why do people assign addresses to point-to-point links at all? You can
just
use a host /128 route to the loopback address of the peer. Saves you the
hassle of coming up with new addresses for every link. Same trick works
for
IPv4 too.

Regards,

Baldur

<SARCASM>

And it makes your trace-routes across parallel links oh so easy to
identify which of them is at fault for the packet loss, too.

</SARCASM>


There are a ton of other technologies with the same problem. Do you never
use link aggregation? My "parallel links" are all link aggregations, so I
would not have a way to identify links by traceroute anyway.

There are a number of good technical reasons to want distinct addresses on
point to point links.


I am sure there are. Tell me about them.

I am not disputing that there are many reasons to sometimes use link
addresses. My question is why do you do it by default?

So far we have heard two arguments:

1) You can ping the link address. I assume his equipment will down the
address if the link is down. My equipment does not do this, I can ping it
as long it is administrative up no matter link status. So this test is
useless to me. I am monitoring links by SNMP anyway.

2) Parallel links. I don't have many of those, and the ones I have are link
aggregations. MPLS interferes with this too.

On the other hand not using link addresses has some advantages:

1) You don't need to assign and document them.
2) It is easy to think about: Router A talks to Router B on link AB. Every
router has only one address so you don't need to remember which address to
use.
3) You avoid having a lot of addresses configured on your router.
4) You are immune to all the NDP attacks.
5) You are immune to the monthly NANOG debate about using /127 vs /126 vs
/124 vs /64. The correct answer is clearly use /128 :-).

Regards,

Baldur


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