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Re: Marriott wifi blocking
From: Brett Frankenberger <rbf+nanog () panix com>
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 18:13:13 -0500
On Sat, Oct 04, 2014 at 11:19:57PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
There's a lot of amateur lawyering ogain on in this thread, in an area where there's a lot of ambiguity. We don't even know for sure that what Marriott did is illegal -- all we know is that the FCC asserted it was and Mariott decided to settle rather than litigate the matter. And that was an extreme case -- Marriott was making transmissions for the *sole purpose of preventing others from using the spectrum*.I don't see a lot of ambiguity in a plain text reading of part 15. Could you please read part 15 and tell me what you think is ambiguous?
Marriott was actually accused of violating 47 USC 333: No person shall willfully or maliciously interfere with or cause interference to any radio communications of any station licensed or authorized by or under this chapter or operated by the United States Government. In cases like the Marriott case, where the sole purpose of the transmission is to interfere with other usage of the transmission, there's not much ambiguity. But other cases aren't clear from the text. For example, you've asserted that if I've been using "ABCD" as my SSID for two years, and then I move, and my new neighbor is already using that, that I have to change. But that if, instead of duplicating my new neighbor's pre-existing SSID, I operate with a different SSID but on the same channel, I don't have to change. I'm not saying your position is wrong, but it's certainly not clear from the text above that that's where the line is. That's what I meant by ambiguity. (What's your position on a case where someone puts up, say, a continuous carrier point-to-point system on the same channel as an existing WiFi system that is now rendered useless by the p-to-p system that won't share the spectrum? Illegal or Legal? And do you think the text above is unambiguous on that point?) -- Brett
Current thread:
- Re: wifi blocking [was Re: Marriott wifi blocking], (continued)
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- Re: wifi blocking [was Re: Marriott wifi blocking] Larry Sheldon (Oct 07)
- Re: wifi blocking [was Re: Marriott wifi blocking] Matt Palmer (Oct 07)
- Re: wifi blocking [was Re: Marriott wifi blocking] Owen DeLong (Oct 08)
- Re: wifi blocking [was Re: Marriott wifi blocking] Owen DeLong (Oct 08)
- Re: wifi blocking [was Re: Marriott wifi blocking] Daniel C. Eckert (Oct 07)
- Re: Marriott wifi blocking Brett Frankenberger (Oct 04)
- Re: Marriott wifi blocking Matthew Petach (Oct 04)
- Re: Marriott wifi blocking Owen DeLong (Oct 04)
- Re: Marriott wifi blocking Jay Ashworth (Oct 05)
- Re: Marriott wifi blocking Owen DeLong (Oct 04)
- Re: Marriott wifi blocking Brett Frankenberger (Oct 05)
- Re: Marriott wifi blocking Jimmy Hess (Oct 05)
- Re: Marriott wifi blocking Owen DeLong (Oct 06)
- Re: Marriott wifi blocking Clay Fiske (Oct 06)
- Re: Marriott wifi blocking Hugo Slabbert (Oct 06)
- Re: Marriott wifi blocking William Herrin (Oct 06)
- Re: Marriott wifi blocking Clay Fiske (Oct 06)
- Re: Marriott wifi blocking Doug Barton (Oct 06)
- Re: Marriott wifi blocking William Herrin (Oct 06)
- Re: Marriott wifi blocking Clay Fiske (Oct 06)
- Re: Marriott wifi blocking Jimmy Hess (Oct 06)