![nanog logo](/images/nanog-logo.png)
nanog mailing list archives
Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP
From: Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom mu>
Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 07:39:13 +0200
On Friday, May 16, 2014 08:52:31 PM Christopher Morrow wrote:
is 'symmetric traffic ratios' even relevant though? Peering is about offsetting costs, right? it might not be important that the ratio be 1:1 or 2:1... or even 10:1, if it's going to cost you 20x to get the traffic over longer/transit/etc paths... or if you have to build into some horrific location(s) to access the content in question. Harping on symmetric ratios seems very 1990... and not particularly germaine to the conversation at hand.
Agree. We don't have a ratio requirement, for example. We have a "if it makes sense" requirement. I'm forced to peer with certain African providers in London and Amsterdam because they don't want to peer in Africa, where we are literally are an x-connect away from each other. And the reasons are not even because either of us is larger or smaller than the other... it's just legacy thinking and we're the new guy that has grown rapidly. Now we both have to pay for traffic to get sent to Europe and back. How nice... Mark.
Attachment:
signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Current thread:
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP, (continued)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Christopher Morrow (May 16)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Blake Hudson (May 16)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Christopher Morrow (May 16)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Mark Tinka (May 17)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Matthew Petach (May 16)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Scott Helms (May 16)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Christopher Morrow (May 16)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Ca By (May 16)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Owen DeLong (May 18)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Matthew Petach (May 18)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Mark Tinka (May 17)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Randy Bush (May 18)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Randy Bush (May 18)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Mark Tinka (May 18)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Scott Helms (May 16)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP James R Cutler (May 16)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Matthew Petach (May 16)
- Rick Astley, Network Engineer [was: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3)] Matt Palmer (May 16)
- Re: Rick Astley, Network Engineer [was: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3)] Warren Bailey (May 16)
- Re: Rick Astley, Network Engineer [was: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3)] Blake Hudson (May 16)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Mark Tinka (May 17)