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Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP
From: Scott Helms <khelms () zcorum com>
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 15:44:55 -0400
Mark, I don't think that anyone disputes that when you improve the upstream you do get an uptick in usage in that direction. What I take issue with is the notion that the upstream is anything like downstream even when the capacity is there. Upstream on ADSL is horribad, especially the first generations (g.lite and g.dmt). Scott Helms Vice President of Technology ZCorum (678) 507-5000 -------------------------------- http://twitter.com/kscotthelms -------------------------------- On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom mu> wrote:
On Friday, May 16, 2014 05:35:39 PM Jay Ashworth wrote:Could you expand a bit, Mark on "Social media forces the use of symmetric bandwidth"? Which social media platform is it that you think has a) symmetrical flows that b) are big enough to figure into transit symmetry?What we saw with FTTH deployments is that customers uploaded more videos and photos to Youtube, Facebook, MySpace, e.t.c. They didn't do this on ADSL as much (it's too frustrating). When that caught on, customers started buying online backup services - synchronizing backups of their home or office computers to remote backup infrastructure. Again, they never did this with ADSL. What we learned: don't take it for granted that you will always know what your customers (or the content providers who serve them) will do with the bandwidth. If they have it, expect the worst, and plan for it as best you can. Mark.
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- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP, (continued)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Mark Tinka (May 18)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Scott Helms (May 16)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP James R Cutler (May 16)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Matthew Petach (May 16)
- Rick Astley, Network Engineer [was: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3)] Matt Palmer (May 16)
- Re: Rick Astley, Network Engineer [was: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3)] Warren Bailey (May 16)
- Re: Rick Astley, Network Engineer [was: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3)] Blake Hudson (May 16)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Mark Tinka (May 17)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Owen DeLong (May 18)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Mark Tinka (May 16)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Scott Helms (May 16)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Mark Tinka (May 17)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Mark Tinka (May 16)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality arvindersingh (May 15)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality Blake Dunlap (May 15)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality Scott Helms (May 15)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality Jerry Dent (May 15)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Joe Greco (May 15)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality arvindersingh (May 15)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality David Conrad (May 15)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality Owen DeLong (May 15)