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Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality
From: arvindersingh () mail2tor com
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 20:12:45 +0100
Jason I think it is important to consider that you are operating your AS 7922 to serve a global Internet. In US, there is not a lot of choke because all the big Internet property - Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon - pay toll to reach Comcast Broadband customer. If they do not pay u, there is not a competitive provider to pay. The routes to Comcast from "peers" are very congested. If u don't pay Comcast, you get sent over throttled Tata link... how is that "open" internet? In my home country, the routes to Comcast are poor bc dominant provider, AS 6453 Tata, is vendor Comcast refuses to upgrade so it can play games. Thank u again for helping provide information, but pls try to keep it accurate. Regards- Arvinder Singh
On 5/15/14, 12:43 PM, "Nick B" <nick () pelagiris org> wrote:Yes, you've got "some of the largest Internet companies as customers². Because you told them "if you don't pay us, we'll throttle you". Then you throttled them. I'm sorry, not a winning argument. NickThat is categorically untrue, however nice a soundbite it may be. If you or anyone else truly believes we are throttling someone then I encourage you to file a formal complaint with the FCC. According to their Open Internet rules that we are bound to through at least 2018 (IIRC) we may not discriminate on traffic in that way, so there is a clear rule and a clear process for complaints. Jason
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- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP, (continued)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Owen DeLong (May 18)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Mark Tinka (May 16)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Scott Helms (May 16)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Mark Tinka (May 17)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Mark Tinka (May 16)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality arvindersingh (May 15)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality Blake Dunlap (May 15)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality Scott Helms (May 15)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality Jerry Dent (May 15)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Joe Greco (May 15)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality arvindersingh (May 15)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality David Conrad (May 15)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality Owen DeLong (May 15)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality (was: Wow its been quiet here... Roland Dobbins (May 14)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality (was: Wow its been quiet here... Mark Tinka (May 14)
- Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality (was: Wow its been quiet here... Owen DeLong (May 14)