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Re: IPv6 isn't SMTP


From: Lamar Owen <lowen () pari edu>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 10:23:10 -0400

On 03/26/2014 08:12 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
As far as i'm concerned....  if you can force the spammer to use their own
IP range, that they can setup RDNS for,  then you have practically  won,
  for all intents and purposes,   as it makes blacklisting feasible, once
again!

Spammers can jump through these hoops ---  but spammers aren't going to
effectively scale up their spamming operation by using IP address ranges
they can setup RDNS on.

Tell that to the 100,000+ e-mails I blocked last week (and the several hundred that got through before I was able to get all the blocks entered into my ingress ACLs) from proper rDNS addresses where the addresses were hopping all over a /24, a /22, three /21's, four /20's, and six /19s in widely separated blocks. Every single address in those blocks eventually attempted to send e-mail, and every address had proper rDNS for the pseudorandom domain names, mostly in the .in TLD, but some others, too (the blocks were all over, with some registed through ARIN, some through RIPE, some through AfriNIC, and some through APNIC, with hosters in Europe, North and South America, Asia, and Africa.) Note that these passed full FCrDNS verification in postfix. They all had very similar characteristics, including an embedded image payload/ad and a couple of hundred kB of anti-Bayesian text, including the full text of Zilog's Z80 manual at one point.

Of course, the other tens of thousands per day that get blocked for not having rDNS from residential bots make the case for leaving rDNS (and the FCrDNS variant) turned on, but it is not a cure-all.



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