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Re: why IPv6 isn't ready for prime time, SMTP edition
From: Måns Nilsson <mansaxel () besserwisser org>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 10:22:31 +0100
Subject: Re: why IPv6 isn't ready for prime time, SMTP edition Date: Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 03:35:48PM -0400 Quoting John R. Levine (johnl () iecc com):
It must be nice to live in world where there is so little spam and other mail abuse that you don't have to do any of the anti-abuse things that real providers in the real world have to do.What is a real provider? And what in the email specifications tells us that the email needs and solutions of any one individual, as long as they are following protocol (which I'm quite convinced Mark is) are "unreal"?A real provider is one that provides mail for real users, as opposed to someone who plays RFC language lawyer games. I only have a few dozen users, but I can assure you I use a whole lot of different filtering approaches including DNSBLs to keep my users' mailboxes usable.
Ergo, ad hominem. Please quit doing that. As a side note I happen to run my own mail server without spam filters -- it works for me. I might not be the norm, but then again, is there really a norm? (A norm that transcends SMTP RFC reach, that is -- the necessity to stick to protocol is not under debate)
I must say it's pretty amusing that someone who works for the organization that published the original DNSBL seems to be ranting against them.
The ability to change ones mind when circumstances change is usually seen as advantageous. Why not here? -- Måns Nilsson primary/secondary/besserwisser/machina MN-1334-RIPE +46 705 989668 This is a NO-FRILLS flight -- hold th' CANADIAN BACON!!
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