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RE: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica
From: "Naslund, Steve" <SNaslund () medline com>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 17:53:47 +0000
That number will change depending on distance, terrain, and a lot of other factors. I have personally installed a lot of outside plant fiber and $700 can turn into $2400 the first time you find a rock or need to add a manhole somewhere. It also depends on distance between customers and their distance from a right of way. Are we talking New York labor or Atlanta labor charges? Big difference there. Did the municipality require conduit? Some do and it becomes much more expensive. Are you digging up any pavement or direct boring it all? It does not matter much though. Bottom line is that if you can get a residential customer to pay even $700 construction charge very often, I will be impressed. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Jay Ashworth [mailto:jra () baylink com] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 12:25 PM To: NANOG Subject: Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica ----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Naslund" <SNaslund () medline com>
What do you mean by average monthly bill? That is the issue here. The average monthly bill includes the services you are getting. In the Chicago area a fiber optic access circuit unbundled from the imcumbent carrier to a competitive carrier is something like $10 a month or so. How could you possibly think you can fund a build out in a new area for that price? It may be possible to pay for that over 20 years. Theproblem is that no one goes into business to break even over 20 years.
Well, Steve, happens we had this conversation in some detail last year when I was up for a City IT director position, and contemplating fibering 12,000 passings.
The magic number is apparently $700-800 per passing, not the $2400 you seem to suggest...
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- RE: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica, (continued)
- RE: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Naslund, Steve (Mar 23)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Owen DeLong (Mar 24)
- RE: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Frank Bulk (Mar 26)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Owen DeLong (Mar 26)
- RE: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Naslund, Steve (Mar 23)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Lamar Owen (Mar 24)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Joe Greco (Mar 24)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Tei (Mar 24)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Matthew Petach (Mar 24)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Jay Ashworth (Mar 24)
- RE: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Naslund, Steve (Mar 24)
- RE: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Naslund, Steve (Mar 24)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Jay Ashworth (Mar 24)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Owen DeLong (Mar 24)
- RE: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Naslund, Steve (Mar 24)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Gary Buhrmaster (Mar 24)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Jay Ashworth (Mar 25)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Sholes, Joshua (Mar 21)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Wayne E Bouchard (Mar 21)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Larry Sheldon (Mar 21)