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RE: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica


From: "Naslund, Steve" <SNaslund () medline com>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 17:53:47 +0000

That number will change depending on distance, terrain, and a lot of other factors.  I have personally installed a lot 
of outside plant fiber and $700 can turn into $2400 the first time you find a rock or need to add a manhole somewhere.  
It also depends on distance between customers and their distance from a right of way.  Are we talking New York labor or 
Atlanta labor charges?  Big difference there.  Did the municipality require conduit?  Some do and it becomes much more 
expensive.  Are you digging up any pavement or direct boring it all?

It does not matter much though.  Bottom line is that if you can get a residential customer to pay even $700 
construction charge very often, I will be impressed.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Ashworth [mailto:jra () baylink com] 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 12:25 PM
To: NANOG
Subject: Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Naslund" <SNaslund () medline com>

What do you mean by average monthly bill? That is the issue here. The 
average monthly bill includes the services you are getting. In the 
Chicago area a fiber optic access circuit unbundled from the imcumbent 
carrier to a competitive carrier is something like $10 a month or so.
How could you possibly think you can fund a build out in a new area 
for that price? It may be possible to pay for that over 20 years. The 
problem is that no one goes into business to break even over 20 years.

Well, Steve, happens we had this conversation in some detail last year when I was up for a City IT director position, 
and contemplating fibering
12,000 passings.

The magic number is apparently $700-800 per passing, not the $2400 you seem to suggest...


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