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Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix
From: Blake Dunlap <ikiris () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 08:45:24 -0500
Last I checked, it is eyeball network responsibility to adequately provision their transit capacity to support the demand of their customers, or find alternate solutions for the customers to be able to receive the service they are paying for (internet bandwidth to/from the sites they choose to visit). Anything outside of that like direct peering is icing on the cake and a way to serve lower latency or costs to the networks in question. This is all a smoke screen from the major eyeball players to cloud the fact that they intentionally do *not* adequately provision transit bandwidth to serve their customers what they are paying for. -Blake On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:28 AM, William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Miles Fidelman <mfidelman () meetinghouse net> wrote:Now I write a check every month to both Verizon and Netflix - and clearly it would be nice if some of that went to provisioning better service between the two. But I can as easily point to Netflix, as to Verizon, when it comes to which dollar stream should be going to bigger (or more efficient) pipes.Hi Miles, Netflix is not your ISP. Verizon is. You pay Verizon to carry your packets to and from everybody else on the Internet, not just those folks they feel like connecting to. On the flip side, Netflix is NOT demanding payment from Verizon the way TV stations demand payment from cable and satellite companies. Netflix and their carriers have repeatedly offered to freely connect at multiple locations where Verizon already has facilities. One of these companies is demanding a second payment to provide the service they've already been paid for. One is not. The one demanding double-payment is unambiguously at fault. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> Can I solve your unusual networking challenges?
Current thread:
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix, (continued)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Tei (Jul 11)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Jay Ashworth (Jul 11)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Owen DeLong (Jul 11)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix William Herrin (Jul 11)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix William Herrin (Jul 11)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Miles Fidelman (Jul 11)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Geoffrey Keating (Jul 11)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Robert Drake (Jul 12)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Owen DeLong (Jul 11)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix William Herrin (Jul 11)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Blake Dunlap (Jul 11)
- RE: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Keenan Tims (Jul 10)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Brian Loveland (Jul 10)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix joel jaeggli (Jul 11)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Blake Hudson (Jul 11)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Christopher Morrow (Jul 11)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix joel jaeggli (Jul 11)