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Re: Why won't providers source-filter attacks? Simple.
From: Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 09:00:39 +1100
In message <977303.7242.1391542533531.JavaMail.root () benjamin baylink com>, Jay Ashworth writes:
----- Original Message -----From: "Paul Ferguson" <fergdawgster () mykolab com>(And yes, I know that in the first case, it urges the customer to cough up the bucks, and in the second case, it's usually not a revenue generator)It's a dichotomy that is... unexplainable for me personally.Nope: it's easy to explain; you merely have to be a cynical bastard: Attack traffic takes up bandwidth. Providers sell bandwidth. It *is in their commercial best interest (read: maximizing shareholder value) *NOT* to filter out DOS, DDOS, and spam traffic until their hand is forced -- it's actually their fiduciary duty not to.
Then the need to be made criminally liable for the damage that it causes. Yes, the directors of these companies need to serve gaol time.
*THIS* is the problem we have to fix. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra () baylink co m Designer The Things I Think RFC 210 0 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DI I St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 127 4
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