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Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 11:35:01 -0500
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:22 AM, William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Bill Woodcock <woody () pch net> wrote:All the specific legal feedback I’ve heard is that this is a liabilitynightmare,and that everyone wants ARIN to take on all the liability, but nobody wants to pay for it. Are you hearing something more useful than that?
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No, nothing more useful. I've seen a lot of hand waving, but I still have no clue how the publication of RPKI data places ARIN at a different risk than publication of whois data. I think if we could better understand that,
(oops, I assumed that the decision to have the rpa implemented in the way it is is due to 'arin counsel') Maybe it would be helpful for the ARIN Counsel to document in a more public way (than the RPA) what the concerns are and how that translates into 'different risk than the publication of whois data' ?
we'd be better able assess what the next steps are. Do we beat down ARIN's door and insist they publish the data? Do we pursue the creation of some new organization to manage RPKI, one with intentionally shallow pockets, and ask ARIN to cede the function? Something else? I think we all need a better understanding of the alleged legal issue before we can zero in on what should come next.
One of the complaints I've heard is that for out-of-region folk to get the TA details they need to sign the RPA, and potentially be bound by a contract that they can't be bound by anyway... so the process is looked upon as a bit 'foolish' or perhaps: "over-reaching" is the more polite term used. First though I think Bill's point about: "How did we get into this mess? could someone walk us through the process/steps taken to get here?" maybe we zigged when we ought to have zagged? -chris
Current thread:
- Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement, (continued)
- Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement Bill Woodcock (Dec 04)
- Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 04)
- Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement Bill Woodcock (Dec 04)
- Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 04)
- Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement Bill Woodcock (Dec 04)
- Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement George, Wes (Dec 04)
- Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement William Herrin (Dec 04)
- Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement Andrew Gallo (Dec 04)
- Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement Carlos M. Martinez (Dec 04)
- Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement Carlos M. Martinez (Dec 04)
- Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement Christopher Morrow (Dec 04)
- Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement John Curran (Dec 04)
- Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement Sandra Murphy (Dec 04)
- Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement Andrew Gallo (Dec 04)
- Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement George, Wes (Dec 04)
- Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement George, Wes (Dec 04)
- Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement John Curran (Dec 04)
- Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement Randy Bush (Dec 05)
- Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement Nick Hilliard (Dec 05)
- Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement Randy Bush (Dec 05)
- Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement Matthias Waehlisch (Dec 05)