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Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house


From: Scott Helms <khelms () zcorum com>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 22:45:02 -0500

In this case, they do own the modems.  I am not aware of any case where
they do this to customer owned gear.
On Dec 11, 2014 8:41 PM, "Ricky Beam" <jfbeam () gmail com> wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 19:33:03 -0500, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:

 In short, the only thing really truly wrong with this scenario is that
Comcast is using equipment that the subscriber should have exclusive
control over (they are renting it, so while Comcast retains ownership, they
have relinquished most rights of control to the "tenant") how the device is
used.


Except every ISP (pretty much universally) thinks the modem/router is
theirs and they can, therefore, do whatever they flippin' please with it.
In some markets (not necessarily comcast), they lock down the router to the
point the customer can't even access it; every single change has to go
through them.

(AT&T Uverse... you can change anything you want, with sufficient access
(i.e. telnet), but the mothership can (and will) undo your changes pretty
much instantly -- "apply" triggers a CWMP event.)



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